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> No one is gonna be doing this sort of thing with an EV though. There is no charging infrastructure out in the boonies. You don't think people have access to

> No one is gonna be doing this sort of thing with an EV though. There is no charging infrastructure out in the boonies. You don't think people have access to electricity in these places...?

alphabettsy 3y ago
Yea, that’s often the only utility they have. No water, sewer, internet.
whalesalad 3y ago
There are vast parts of the country where your cell phone won’t even work. Good luck finding a charging station. Guess ya can bring your dongle and hope to find a wall plug somewhere but I’d imagine it would take quite a long time to charge. Off roaders carry extra fuel. Or worst case your buddy who is out with you will circle back to get fuel and come save you. Can’t really do that with an EV.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  If no power, how would you have a gas station? You can always drop solar and batteries for a charging station. StarLink for remote telemetry and billing. https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/30/a-new-solution-for-off-grid-ev-charging-solution/ https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/30/a-new-solution-for-off-...
  - whalesalad 3y ago
    What are you gonna do at a gas station in buttfuck? Ask to borrow the wall plug? How do you pay for that? How long does it take to recharge without a dedicated wall charger or high power charging station?
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Yes, gas stations in the middle of nowhere have let me use their 220V 30amps to charge. Campsites too. Billing can be automated with the current EV charging standard. You get about 5 miles of range per hour off a 120V 20A circuit. https://supercharge.info/map https://supercharge.info/map https://www.plugshare.com/ https://www.plugshare.com/
      - whalesalad 3y ago
        > You get about 5 miles of range per hour off a 120V 20A circuit. I suppose that technically works but I’d imagine you’d be sleeping in the truck all night while it charges to get just enough juice to get out of dodge. 8 hours is 40 miles. If the weather is bad and you need heat that falls apart though.
cgh 3y ago
Often not. On hunting trips where I live, I'm away from all infrastructure on rough terrain for days at a time. I drive a Nissan Frontier and it grinds its way up steep logging roads for hours each day.
veec_cas_tant 3y ago
To be clear, it looks like there are 40+ DC fast chargers within 50 miles of this location, which seems to be Hollister Hills in CA. Hard to count because it is close to San Jose.
- whalesalad 3y ago
  Hollister Hills is one of the best off road parks I’ve ever been to. It’s fortunate to be located in NorCal where charging is more common.

> No one is gonna be doing this sort of thing with an EV though. There is no charging infrastructure out in the boonies. You don't think people have access to electricity in these places...?

alphabettsy 3y ago

Yea, that’s often the only utility they have. No water, sewer, internet.

whalesalad 3y ago

There are vast parts of the country where your cell phone won’t even work. Good luck finding a charging station. Guess ya can bring your dongle and hope to find a wall plug somewhere but I’d imagine it would take quite a long time to charge. Off roaders carry extra fuel. Or worst case your buddy who is out with you will circle back to get fuel and come save you. Can’t really do that with an EV.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
If no power, how would you have a gas station? You can always drop solar and batteries for a charging station. StarLink for remote telemetry and billing. https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/30/a-new-solution-for-off-grid-ev-charging-solution/ https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/30/a-new-solution-for-off-...
- whalesalad 3y ago
  What are you gonna do at a gas station in buttfuck? Ask to borrow the wall plug? How do you pay for that? How long does it take to recharge without a dedicated wall charger or high power charging station?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Yes, gas stations in the middle of nowhere have let me use their 220V 30amps to charge. Campsites too. Billing can be automated with the current EV charging standard. You get about 5 miles of range per hour off a 120V 20A circuit. https://supercharge.info/map https://supercharge.info/map https://www.plugshare.com/ https://www.plugshare.com/
    - whalesalad 3y ago
      > You get about 5 miles of range per hour off a 120V 20A circuit. I suppose that technically works but I’d imagine you’d be sleeping in the truck all night while it charges to get just enough juice to get out of dodge. 8 hours is 40 miles. If the weather is bad and you need heat that falls apart though.

cgh 3y ago

Often not. On hunting trips where I live, I'm away from all infrastructure on rough terrain for days at a time. I drive a Nissan Frontier and it grinds its way up steep logging roads for hours each day.

veec_cas_tant 3y ago

To be clear, it looks like there are 40+ DC fast chargers within 50 miles of this location, which seems to be Hollister Hills in CA. Hard to count because it is close to San Jose.

whalesalad 3y ago
Hollister Hills is one of the best off road parks I’ve ever been to. It’s fortunate to be located in NorCal where charging is more common.