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Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians
- tashian 3y agoCruise certainly knows.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Cruise certainly knows Given the number of drivers who seemingly-unknowingly bump and run pedestrians, I wouldn’t be so sure.
- uoaei 3y agoDrivers don't typically have signals high-resolution 360 degree views, accelerometers, and other sensors on the outside of an insulated steel and aluminum vehicle piped directly into their sensory experience.
- pimlottc 3y agoSure, but if it was easy to interpret the results of all those sensors they wouldn’t be hitting people in the first place.
- bdcravens 3y agoAnalyzing archived footage is much different than real-time analysis.
- vikramkr 3y agoIt's not easy to act on the information in a car. But the technology is sure as hell advanced enough to tell if you hit someone. I mean it's literally video you can look at it
- chankstein38 3y agoBut is anyone reviewing these videos? Just having hundreds or thousands of hours of videos doesn't mean you know what's in those videos.
- vikramkr 3y agoIf I was a regulator, that sounds like their problem not mine. They have the data. Let them analyze it. Maybe a different branch of the government could help them with that but if they're bringing the new tech that's on them to prove it. It's not like pharma spends hundreds of millions on a clinical trial for fun. Getting that safety data is hard and will cost billions of dollars? That's your problem not mine. They don't want to spend billions parsing the data? They don't need to be let onto the road either.
- chankstein38 3y agoFair point! I was definitely in more the "They don't currently know" thought process but you're right, they have the data they just need to actually review it if they haven't!
- vikramkr 3y agoTo give them credit and be fair to cruise though - in pharma the FDA makes pretty clear what's needed and doesn't let people just start selling drugs without proof they work (unless they were grandfathered in). If I was regulating the regulators, e.g. a congressperson or something, then I'd pin quite a bit of the blame on the government itself for letting the cars on the road without making clear what cruise needed to track and report, and how.
- newprint 3y agoHitting anything should be registered, let alone people.
- jeffrallen 3y agoOr maybe they just don't care. Their business model is, "move fast, break laws, hope that society changes the laws before we go bankrupt". Self driving cars need to be sent to Antarctica and tested there, where there's no humans to drag.
- sroussey 3y agoFeds Have No Idea How Many Times Car With Human Drivers Have Hit Pedestrians
- andygeorge 3y agoFeels like the feds have some idea https://www.nhtsa.gov/book/countermeasures/countermeasures-work/pedestrian-safety https://www.nhtsa.gov/book/countermeasures/countermeasures-w...
- egypturnash 3y agopublic transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are
- beambot 3y agoWhy should venture capital be relevant to a non-commercial money-losing venture?
- andygeorge 3y agounsure if you've been around VCs but they certainly are involved in non-commercial money-losing ventures
- 2C64 3y agoI'd say it's relevant as the investment in for-profit transit-as-tech companies has coincided with the chronic under-funding of public transit. Focusing on the US here, but if public transit was accepted as a public good, and the populace accepted that funding things for the public good was an acceptable use of government funds, then these companies wouldn't be as sound of an investment for VCs.
- beambot 3y agoI agree: The solution is to change government spending so that public goods are sufficient to render other options moot. But the VC investment didn't cause the underinvestment of infrastructure. Rather, they stepped in to fill the void with other viable options when government initiatives failed to materialize. Example: where's my high-speed rail?!
- rcbdev 3y agoIf I recall correctly, a certain South African entrepreneur who overstayed his visa pitched a vacuum-based transport system which he provably knew will not work at critical funding stages of high-speed rail projects in California. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- choppaface 3y agoHave been hit by Uber twice as a pedestrian. Reported it to Uber support, I gave location and time. And they don’t care, support agents keep dropping and handing off the request because the know it will go nowhere. Where’s the regulation of rideshare accident reporting?
- jeffrallen 3y agoHave you asked the police to bring charges as a hit and run? I mean, if you can't get Uber to answer, pretty sure the cops can get them to do so.
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- anonymouskimmer 3y agoAny reason you aren't reporting it to the police?
- darkclouds 3y agoSome people dont want to validate their existence or the bad laws that also exist on the statute books.
- timeon 3y agoIt is better to ask for help from your constituency... unless you have private militia.
- darkclouds 3y agoI wasnt bought up to ask for help. It was beaten in to me by parents and teachers, to work things out myself, today that causes me significant cognitive dissonance which is legal torture and a way to make people self destruct. Besides why should other people know how I'm being done over?
- jeffrallen 3y ago> Obviously, members of the public have no access to this information (VINs) as to for-hire AVs Sure they do: grab a convenient traffic cone, put it on its hood, and then read off the VIN at your leisure. Or just walk up on the hood of the stupid murder robot, if you are diggin' your 70's cop show vibe that day.
- sagarm 3y agoIf walking onto the hood of the car seems like a good idea, I'm not sure calling it a murder bot makes sense. Walking into the hood of a human driven car does seem likely to result in violence, however.