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Came to say basically the same thing. Not to mention they also refer to their F1.8 "Glass" when their own technical specs list the lens elements as plastic. It

Came to say basically the same thing. Not to mention they also refer to their F1.8 "Glass" when their own technical specs list the lens elements as plastic. It's basically a $10 sensor, a $5 mic, $5 of miscellaneous plastic and circuitry, and yet they want $175 for what? I might have given all their typical startup BS and hyperbole a pass if it was like $79 or something reasonable, but at $175 it just seems like a scam.

j45 3y ago
I’d love to learn how to build one of my own from you since it’s that easy? The form factor here is ideal. Also unclear if it’s 4K (can help with brightness in less than ideal lighting. My understanding is the same components still have to be driven well to work together by custom software for high quality?
- jfim 3y ago
  It's 1080p. From the specs > Resolution 48MP binned to 1080P
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    That's ridiculous. 48MP should be capable of at least 4K video. Are their yields still not high enough at 4K even if they're charging an order of magnitude more than what the components actually cost?
    - tw04 3y ago
      They don’t have any yields. This is an off the shelf Sony sensor and they chose the cheaper binned part. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor
      - LoganDark 3y ago
        (Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor) Ah, so they only care about money. Perfect. Also hilarious that they say it's "binned" to 1080p when they're actually only getting the rejects that weren't good enough for 4K! Way to be technically correct, Opal.
        jfim 3y ago
        Binning in this context refers to the technique of taking adjacent pixels to get lower noise in readings (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_binning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_binning). It has nothing to do with binning in chip making (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning). It's still pretty surprising to see 48 megapixels binned to basically 2 megapixels.
      - j45 3y ago
        I wonder if it could be swapped :)
    - j45 3y ago
      Agreed. I’m running a Logitech Brio (4K) and while it’s not perfect it’s pretty decent to auto adjust for the lighting in most rooms.
deafpolygon 3y ago
They want some of that sweet Apple tax. Er, I mean, marketing faff and charging extra for it. Just look at their website. Some people will pay, just for the illusion.

j45 3y ago

I’d love to learn how to build one of my own from you since it’s that easy? The form factor here is ideal. Also unclear if it’s 4K (can help with brightness in less than ideal lighting. My understanding is the same components still have to be driven well to work together by custom software for high quality?

jfim 3y ago
It's 1080p. From the specs > Resolution 48MP binned to 1080P
- LoganDark 3y ago
  That's ridiculous. 48MP should be capable of at least 4K video. Are their yields still not high enough at 4K even if they're charging an order of magnitude more than what the components actually cost?
  - tw04 3y ago
    They don’t have any yields. This is an off the shelf Sony sensor and they chose the cheaper binned part. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      (Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor) Ah, so they only care about money. Perfect. Also hilarious that they say it's "binned" to 1080p when they're actually only getting the rejects that weren't good enough for 4K! Way to be technically correct, Opal.
      - jfim 3y ago
        Binning in this context refers to the technique of taking adjacent pixels to get lower noise in readings (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_binning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_binning). It has nothing to do with binning in chip making (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning). It's still pretty surprising to see 48 megapixels binned to basically 2 megapixels.
    - j45 3y ago
      I wonder if it could be swapped :)
  - j45 3y ago
    Agreed. I’m running a Logitech Brio (4K) and while it’s not perfect it’s pretty decent to auto adjust for the lighting in most rooms.

deafpolygon 3y ago

They want some of that sweet Apple tax. Er, I mean, marketing faff and charging extra for it. Just look at their website. Some people will pay, just for the illusion.