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OTOH this whole "I didn't value your service enough to pay for it, but now that you failed and open sourced it I'll jump on it" attitude is kind of annoying. I

by dudul 3y ago

OTOH this whole "I didn't value your service enough to pay for it, but now that you failed and open sourced it I'll jump on it" attitude is kind of annoying. I can absolutely understand startup founders who are a bit spiteful and don't want to give away for free what nobody was interested in buying from them.

Ensorceled 3y ago
It's better for your mental health to instead think "well, at least my loyal, paying customers who believed in me have a path".
- dudul 3y ago
  True, that's a good counter point. I'll take it :)
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Perhaps another option would be to give paying customers an invitation to a private git repo
andybak 3y ago
Maybe the pricing is off? There's lots of things I'd use at $n but wouldn't use at $10n And the corollary of this - if open source didn't exist, the result wouldn't be me paying for lots more products - it would be using lots less products. Certainly - the advent of paywalls has meant that I mainly don't read those sources. Even the more affordable ones come with a mental tax of deciding to subscribe/cancel, remembering to renew/cancel etc...
cableshaft 3y ago
The first time I've heard of it is today so I can't really have ever given them money to begin with. But I'd be curious to see the source once it's released, for sure.
nextaccountic 3y ago
Open source code is inherently more dependable than proprietary code, in that if the maintainer quits and this tool is crucial for your business, if it's open source you can maintain it yourself (or if it's used by multiple parties, they can pool together to keep maintaining it) I myself am not interested on any proprietary offerings at this point; this has no relation to any qualities of the proprietary product. It could be awesome for all I know
Aeolun 3y ago
I think there’s a lot of people that’ll happily install it if it’s open source, and then do absolutely nothing with it. The same people wouldn’t pay $20/month for the same privilege. The people to whom it is valuable are already paying.

by dudul 3y ago

Ensorceled 3y ago

It's better for your mental health to instead think "well, at least my loyal, paying customers who believed in me have a path".

dudul 3y ago
True, that's a good counter point. I'll take it :)
bdcravens 3y ago
Perhaps another option would be to give paying customers an invitation to a private git repo

andybak 3y ago

Maybe the pricing is off? There's lots of things I'd use at $n but wouldn't use at $10n And the corollary of this - if open source didn't exist, the result wouldn't be me paying for lots more products - it would be using lots less products. Certainly - the advent of paywalls has meant that I mainly don't read those sources. Even the more affordable ones come with a mental tax of deciding to subscribe/cancel, remembering to renew/cancel etc...

cableshaft 3y ago

The first time I've heard of it is today so I can't really have ever given them money to begin with. But I'd be curious to see the source once it's released, for sure.

nextaccountic 3y ago

Open source code is inherently more dependable than proprietary code, in that if the maintainer quits and this tool is crucial for your business, if it's open source you can maintain it yourself (or if it's used by multiple parties, they can pool together to keep maintaining it) I myself am not interested on any proprietary offerings at this point; this has no relation to any qualities of the proprietary product. It could be awesome for all I know

Aeolun 3y ago

I think there’s a lot of people that’ll happily install it if it’s open source, and then do absolutely nothing with it. The same people wouldn’t pay $20/month for the same privilege. The people to whom it is valuable are already paying.