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A week of bug fixes doesn’t exactly seem like news. I think most people are hoping for like an entire release dedicated to it.

by pram 3y ago

chasingthewind 3y ago
I just set up a new iPhone yesterday, and it was pretty frustrating. Apparently there is a known bug that prevents seamlessly setting up a new iPhone from your old one unless you first perform an OS update. The phone started the update, but the screen was immediately visually corrupted and the update simply hung. I was forced to restart the phone and go through multiple attempts to get everything to work. In the end, I had to erase the phone and start over from scratch after applying the updates. Some of the advice on the web seems to be to set the phone up as a new iPhone then perform the updates, then erase it and set it up from your old phone afterwards. Every time I’ve done this before in the last several years it has worked almost perfectly. So I would agree… I would definitely like to see more than just a weeks worth of bug fixes!
solarkraft 3y ago
That is exactly what I want them to do. If the current trend continues I might as well buy an Android phone.
- dangus 3y ago
  The grass is about the same shade of green on the other side.
  - ungamedplayer 3y ago
    At least you can fix the bug when you have the source.. not so much with iOS.
    - dangus 3y ago
      Android is not exactly open source. Everything useful is bundled in Google play services. Almost all Android phones are not designed to be modified. Let’s say I buy a Samsung phone and find a bug that I want to fix. How do I do it? Can you walk me through it step-by-step at a high level? Also, you can release source code and still be monopolistic and abuse your competitive advantage. Chrome, Edge, and Safari are essentially open source but their competitive advantages come from being installed as defaults on their respective operating systems. They have an inherent competitive advantage over other open source browsers like Firefox (and the market share statistics prove it).
    - dagmx 3y ago
      Only at a very narrow layer, and only if you’re also installing a custom AOSP build. Want to fix a bug in any of the hardware interacting modules like drivers? Not usually possible because you can’t modify binary blobs. Instead you need to modify the parts interacting with the driver and hope you can get a workaround. Want to modify the apps? Most of the apps people use are closed source , including many that people take for granted as being vended by the OS. So that’s also moot unless you stick to FOSS apps only. And even then, to go AOSP, you’d probably lose access to a majority of the differentiating features of your device. At the end of the day, yes, you can MAYBE fix a small section of bugs if you have the skills and are willing to make a lot of compromises as well. It’s not as cut and dry as OSS makes it sound
      - ungamedplayer 3y ago
        Most people care about user facing code. Which is by and large most of the code. You get the option with open source. You do not get the option with closed. Cut, dried, dehydrated and delivered to your door.
    - SkyPuncher 3y ago
      I was an android fan boy for years. I solved exactly zero bugs myself. Most of the bugs I wanted to fix where things that worked correctly on the iPhone. Turns out having essentially the same device across the entire platform makes development way easier.
      - dd_xplore 3y ago
        However most functionalities of the OS are ridiculous. File management is the worst. On Android you could do whatever you want exactly with the particular file, not so much on iOS. iOS despite being smooth and consistent only works the way that apple wants.
- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  Do it! I feel empowered using as many cross platform services as possible so switching is relatively painless.
inferiorhuman 3y ago
I'd be happy to see Apple iterate on Sonoma until a 10.4.11 quality release is made. It's an interesting dichotomy. The hardware is as good as it's ever been, and I've generally minor complaints about the current MacBook Pro chassis. The software, while not MacOS 9 filesystem destroying level of awful, is probably the worst release I've seen since the switch to Intel.

A week of bug fixes doesn’t exactly seem like news. I think most people are hoping for like an entire release dedicated to it.

by pram 3y ago

A week of bug fixes doesn’t exactly seem like news. I think most people are hoping for like an entire release dedicated to it.

chasingthewind 3y ago

I just set up a new iPhone yesterday, and it was pretty frustrating. Apparently there is a known bug that prevents seamlessly setting up a new iPhone from your old one unless you first perform an OS update. The phone started the update, but the screen was immediately visually corrupted and the update simply hung. I was forced to restart the phone and go through multiple attempts to get everything to work. In the end, I had to erase the phone and start over from scratch after applying the updates. Some of the advice on the web seems to be to set the phone up as a new iPhone then perform the updates, then erase it and set it up from your old phone afterwards. Every time I’ve done this before in the last several years it has worked almost perfectly. So I would agree… I would definitely like to see more than just a weeks worth of bug fixes!

solarkraft 3y ago

That is exactly what I want them to do. If the current trend continues I might as well buy an Android phone.

dangus 3y ago
The grass is about the same shade of green on the other side.
- ungamedplayer 3y ago
  At least you can fix the bug when you have the source.. not so much with iOS.
  - dangus 3y ago
    Android is not exactly open source. Everything useful is bundled in Google play services. Almost all Android phones are not designed to be modified. Let’s say I buy a Samsung phone and find a bug that I want to fix. How do I do it? Can you walk me through it step-by-step at a high level? Also, you can release source code and still be monopolistic and abuse your competitive advantage. Chrome, Edge, and Safari are essentially open source but their competitive advantages come from being installed as defaults on their respective operating systems. They have an inherent competitive advantage over other open source browsers like Firefox (and the market share statistics prove it).
  - dagmx 3y ago
    Only at a very narrow layer, and only if you’re also installing a custom AOSP build. Want to fix a bug in any of the hardware interacting modules like drivers? Not usually possible because you can’t modify binary blobs. Instead you need to modify the parts interacting with the driver and hope you can get a workaround. Want to modify the apps? Most of the apps people use are closed source , including many that people take for granted as being vended by the OS. So that’s also moot unless you stick to FOSS apps only. And even then, to go AOSP, you’d probably lose access to a majority of the differentiating features of your device. At the end of the day, yes, you can MAYBE fix a small section of bugs if you have the skills and are willing to make a lot of compromises as well. It’s not as cut and dry as OSS makes it sound
    - ungamedplayer 3y ago
      Most people care about user facing code. Which is by and large most of the code. You get the option with open source. You do not get the option with closed. Cut, dried, dehydrated and delivered to your door.
  - SkyPuncher 3y ago
    I was an android fan boy for years. I solved exactly zero bugs myself. Most of the bugs I wanted to fix where things that worked correctly on the iPhone. Turns out having essentially the same device across the entire platform makes development way easier.
    - dd_xplore 3y ago
      However most functionalities of the OS are ridiculous. File management is the worst. On Android you could do whatever you want exactly with the particular file, not so much on iOS. iOS despite being smooth and consistent only works the way that apple wants.
RockRobotRock 3y ago
Do it! I feel empowered using as many cross platform services as possible so switching is relatively painless.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

I'd be happy to see Apple iterate on Sonoma until a 10.4.11 quality release is made. It's an interesting dichotomy. The hardware is as good as it's ever been, and I've generally minor complaints about the current MacBook Pro chassis. The software, while not MacOS 9 filesystem destroying level of awful, is probably the worst release I've seen since the switch to Intel.