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The competition can't even install them right... https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/1723070535540564076 https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/172307053

The competition can't even install them right... https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/1723070535540564076 https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/1723070535540564076

BugsJustFindMe 3y ago
The cable would clearly reach their vehicle's charging port just fine had they parked normally and not like an idiot, as shown in this other photo from that thread: https://twitter.com/Jimotheous/status/1723098742306263384/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Jimotheous/status/1723098742306263384/ph...
- jcrash 3y ago
  I think this picture actually shows that the way it's meant to be used is really unintuitive. How can you see that and not agree it's a confusing design?
  - BugsJustFindMe 3y ago
    I agree that it could be confusing for people not adept at spatial reasoning (though one could question why such a person should be allowed to operate something so inherently dangerous to others on public roads), but I immediately understood the geometry and still think that it's a completely reasonable design for the intended vehicles (while probably intentionally hostile to other vehicles that don't have their charge ports at the front left corner).
    - jcrash 3y ago
      Glad you understood it instantly. Now maybe work on your social skills
- glitchc 3y ago
  It is flipped 180 degrees tho, innit?
  - jcrash 3y ago
    Looks like it to me.
- schiffern 3y ago
  Well that's confusing! It's the EV charger equivalent of Norman Doors. https://www.outofsightdesigns.com/norman-doors/ https://www.outofsightdesigns.com/norman-doors/ Doors should instantly communicate 1) what side the door operates on, and 2) how the door operates. Similarly, an EV charger should instantly communicate 1) where and how to park (back in, pull through) 2) how to properly connect the cable 3) (optional) any additional steps to start charging such as payment etc. In this Norman Charger, it's not clear where where to park. The charger is actually positioned so it's entirely in front of the adjacent parking slot. Additionally the routing of the charge cable is wonky, forcing you to awkwardly "shortcut" the cable behind a pole (especially hard for limited mobility users).
  - Guvante 3y ago
    Cars don't have a standard location for their charger though.
    - Kirby64 3y ago
      They don’t, but this is specifically a charging network designed for rivian vehicles. It seems confusing for rivian owners.
    - schiffern 3y ago
      Sure, but that doesn't negate the above. As part of the overall design of an EV charger, you ideally should accommodate charge ports in different locations. (1) and (2) should be clearly communicated wherever your car's charge port is located. Charge ports have mostly settled in one "corner" of the car, with a few front/back. If your cable reaches left/right/center, it can accommodate all common charge ports.
rasz 3y ago
Its installed in a way cable is just long enough to charge Rivian truck and no other vehicle.
- MBCook 3y ago
  That’s what I was thinking. If the charge port is next to the drivers door like it is on a number of vehicles, would that even reach?
threeseed 3y ago
That looks correctly installed to me. It's designed for Rivian cars and you wouldn't want the cable to be on the ground for no reason.
- pests 3y ago
  But why is it forcing the vehicle to park illegally?
  - chrisfowles 3y ago
    He's parked in the wrong bay for that charger
    - pests 3y ago
      It doesn't look like any bay would be correct for that charger.
- dylan604 3y ago
  While it could be correctly installed, it is absolutely baffling orientation. Being on the ground could be solved in other ways.

The competition can't even install them right... https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/1723070535540564076 https://twitter.com/itskyleconner/status/1723070535540564076

BugsJustFindMe 3y ago

The cable would clearly reach their vehicle's charging port just fine had they parked normally and not like an idiot, as shown in this other photo from that thread: https://twitter.com/Jimotheous/status/1723098742306263384/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Jimotheous/status/1723098742306263384/ph...

jcrash 3y ago
I think this picture actually shows that the way it's meant to be used is really unintuitive. How can you see that and not agree it's a confusing design?
- BugsJustFindMe 3y ago
  I agree that it could be confusing for people not adept at spatial reasoning (though one could question why such a person should be allowed to operate something so inherently dangerous to others on public roads), but I immediately understood the geometry and still think that it's a completely reasonable design for the intended vehicles (while probably intentionally hostile to other vehicles that don't have their charge ports at the front left corner).
  - jcrash 3y ago
    Glad you understood it instantly. Now maybe work on your social skills
glitchc 3y ago
It is flipped 180 degrees tho, innit?
- jcrash 3y ago
  Looks like it to me.
schiffern 3y ago
Well that's confusing! It's the EV charger equivalent of Norman Doors. https://www.outofsightdesigns.com/norman-doors/ https://www.outofsightdesigns.com/norman-doors/ Doors should instantly communicate 1) what side the door operates on, and 2) how the door operates. Similarly, an EV charger should instantly communicate 1) where and how to park (back in, pull through) 2) how to properly connect the cable 3) (optional) any additional steps to start charging such as payment etc. In this Norman Charger, it's not clear where where to park. The charger is actually positioned so it's entirely in front of the adjacent parking slot. Additionally the routing of the charge cable is wonky, forcing you to awkwardly "shortcut" the cable behind a pole (especially hard for limited mobility users).
- Guvante 3y ago
  Cars don't have a standard location for their charger though.
  - Kirby64 3y ago
    They don’t, but this is specifically a charging network designed for rivian vehicles. It seems confusing for rivian owners.
  - schiffern 3y ago
    Sure, but that doesn't negate the above. As part of the overall design of an EV charger, you ideally should accommodate charge ports in different locations. (1) and (2) should be clearly communicated wherever your car's charge port is located. Charge ports have mostly settled in one "corner" of the car, with a few front/back. If your cable reaches left/right/center, it can accommodate all common charge ports.

rasz 3y ago

Its installed in a way cable is just long enough to charge Rivian truck and no other vehicle.

MBCook 3y ago
That’s what I was thinking. If the charge port is next to the drivers door like it is on a number of vehicles, would that even reach?

threeseed 3y ago

That looks correctly installed to me. It's designed for Rivian cars and you wouldn't want the cable to be on the ground for no reason.

pests 3y ago
But why is it forcing the vehicle to park illegally?
- chrisfowles 3y ago
  He's parked in the wrong bay for that charger
  - pests 3y ago
    It doesn't look like any bay would be correct for that charger.
dylan604 3y ago
While it could be correctly installed, it is absolutely baffling orientation. Being on the ground could be solved in other ways.