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Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said that hasn't become a reality and cannot become a reality in the next 10 years? 1 engineering or physics related th

Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said that hasn't become a reality and cannot become a reality in the next 10 years? 1 engineering or physics related thing. Deadlines don't count. I'm waiting...

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
Everything Hyperloop related is not happening.
- maxlin 3y ago
  Has Elon actually promised something concrete about this? Elon's not the first guy ever to hype the hyperloop idea. On its basis it is hard to think we won't this at some point as it promises essentially orbit-like capability on the surface, so everyone has the right to dream we'd get this sooner.
  - clort 3y ago
    "Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said" ..well known example is given.. "Has Elon actually promised something concrete about this?" you can see that those things are different.
    - maxlin 3y ago
      I think the reasonable limit is when something sounds like that he argues it is possible "soon" instead of not being thought about. Like, I don't think we'll have AGI or gene-modified catgirls in 10 years but those dont count as an answer to this. Hyperloop was always being to be extremely expensive and Elon's role on it was never but just try to be a catalyst for more innovation towards it. He used terms like "open-source idea" and did that student competition to try to kind of drive other people to grab the idea. Things like FSD are instead considered concrete and produced by his companies.
      - heavenlyblue 3y ago
        And FSD doesn't work, at least not in the way it was promised.
        maxlin 3y ago
        Yeah well it will before 10 years and increases the value of even current cars
        martin8412 3y ago
        It will not.
        maxlin 3y ago
        Only if the world ends it won't. At that point Tesla will have licensed it to a ton of other manufacturers, possibly even reached a certified standard like they did with NACS so competition will be even more behind. Your kind of thinking would say that no one will ever need more than 840k of memory or that rifling will never take off
- panick21_ 3y ago
  Elon literally said that he didn't have time to work on it, he just liked the idea. What more can he do manage expectation? Like people don't listen and just assume because they get information from secondary "news" articles. Musk released a bluepaper and that pretty much it. SpaceX hosted a student competition also. Other companies failing doesnt reflect on Musk. I do think Hyperloop was a bad idea to be sure, but he very clearly stated he wasnt gone make it happen.
modeless 3y ago
HW3 Teslas will not reach robotaxi-level self-driving without hardware upgrades. I also don't believe commercial Earth-to-Earth passenger service will ever be viable with the current Starship design. Certainly not in the next 10 years.
stonogo 3y ago
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960
- maxlin 3y ago
  > 1 engineering or physics related thing
martin8412 3y ago
Coast to coast self-driving by late 2017.
- maxlin 3y ago
  Did you read the question?
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    That is an engineering thing. And even your arbitrary 15 year extension is not realistic.
    - maxlin 3y ago
      It's not my question but you still didn't bloody read it: > Deadlines don't count.
maxlin 3y ago
This is a very engaging question. No idea why anyone would flag this.
- orbital-decay 3y ago
  Because this part >cannot become a reality in the next 10 years serves as red herring and allows to move the goalposts arbitrarily, making the question pretty manipulative. Anything can become a reality in 10 years, theoretically speaking. At the same time this is not the main issue with Elon claims at all.
  - maxlin 3y ago
    I get what you're coming from. But. I think it is fair considering some of the most beloved provider / consumer relationships we have often end up in the situation that everyone wants the thing as fast as possible, and the producer is very optimistic, wants to deliver and ends up "lying" about timelines without any ill intention. Everyone still wants the damn thing. Critique is better aimed towards things that are actually impossible instead just being observed with too much optimism timewise. I don't think sharp unnecessary critique of irreplaceable multidisciplinary pioneers like Elon are healthy in any space, especially here. This is not Steam Forums.

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago

Everything Hyperloop related is not happening.

maxlin 3y ago
Has Elon actually promised something concrete about this? Elon's not the first guy ever to hype the hyperloop idea. On its basis it is hard to think we won't this at some point as it promises essentially orbit-like capability on the surface, so everyone has the right to dream we'd get this sooner.
- clort 3y ago
  "Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said" ..well known example is given.. "Has Elon actually promised something concrete about this?" you can see that those things are different.
  - maxlin 3y ago
    I think the reasonable limit is when something sounds like that he argues it is possible "soon" instead of not being thought about. Like, I don't think we'll have AGI or gene-modified catgirls in 10 years but those dont count as an answer to this. Hyperloop was always being to be extremely expensive and Elon's role on it was never but just try to be a catalyst for more innovation towards it. He used terms like "open-source idea" and did that student competition to try to kind of drive other people to grab the idea. Things like FSD are instead considered concrete and produced by his companies.
    - heavenlyblue 3y ago
      And FSD doesn't work, at least not in the way it was promised.
      - maxlin 3y ago
        Yeah well it will before 10 years and increases the value of even current cars
        martin8412 3y ago
        It will not.
        maxlin 3y ago
        Only if the world ends it won't. At that point Tesla will have licensed it to a ton of other manufacturers, possibly even reached a certified standard like they did with NACS so competition will be even more behind. Your kind of thinking would say that no one will ever need more than 840k of memory or that rifling will never take off
panick21_ 3y ago
Elon literally said that he didn't have time to work on it, he just liked the idea. What more can he do manage expectation? Like people don't listen and just assume because they get information from secondary "news" articles. Musk released a bluepaper and that pretty much it. SpaceX hosted a student competition also. Other companies failing doesnt reflect on Musk. I do think Hyperloop was a bad idea to be sure, but he very clearly stated he wasnt gone make it happen.

modeless 3y ago

HW3 Teslas will not reach robotaxi-level self-driving without hardware upgrades. I also don't believe commercial Earth-to-Earth passenger service will ever be viable with the current Starship design. Certainly not in the next 10 years.

stonogo 3y ago

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960

maxlin 3y ago
> 1 engineering or physics related thing

martin8412 3y ago

Coast to coast self-driving by late 2017.

maxlin 3y ago
Did you read the question?
- IshKebab 3y ago
  That is an engineering thing. And even your arbitrary 15 year extension is not realistic.
  - maxlin 3y ago
    It's not my question but you still didn't bloody read it: > Deadlines don't count.

maxlin 3y ago

This is a very engaging question. No idea why anyone would flag this.

orbital-decay 3y ago
Because this part >cannot become a reality in the next 10 years serves as red herring and allows to move the goalposts arbitrarily, making the question pretty manipulative. Anything can become a reality in 10 years, theoretically speaking. At the same time this is not the main issue with Elon claims at all.
- maxlin 3y ago
  I get what you're coming from. But. I think it is fair considering some of the most beloved provider / consumer relationships we have often end up in the situation that everyone wants the thing as fast as possible, and the producer is very optimistic, wants to deliver and ends up "lying" about timelines without any ill intention. Everyone still wants the damn thing. Critique is better aimed towards things that are actually impossible instead just being observed with too much optimism timewise. I don't think sharp unnecessary critique of irreplaceable multidisciplinary pioneers like Elon are healthy in any space, especially here. This is not Steam Forums.