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> can Apple deny this to US users? For how long? Yes. For as long as either... - The US fails to pass DMA-equivalent antimonopoly law. We had the Open App Mar
by kmeisthax 3y ago
> can Apple deny this to US users? For how long?
Yes. For as long as either...
- The US fails to pass DMA-equivalent antimonopoly law. We had the Open App Markets Act (OAMA) but it's basically dead thanks to lobbying
- The EU fails to impose DMA requirements outside of their jurisdiction
One thing to note is that the EU loves extraterritoriality. They call it the Brussels Effect - they write laws in such a way that it's cheaper to just comply worldwide than try and carve out the EU. For example, GDPR protects EU citizens, rather than people in the EU, so anyone with EU citizen data has to comply with GDPR even if they have no contact with the EU.
The US and EU are both sovereign nations, so there's all sorts of ways this could play out. The EU could amend the Digital Markets Act to require worldwide compliance, which would obligate Apple to offer sideloading to Americans. The options to combat this from the US side would be fairly limited and arguably too extreme to use. Most of Apple's lobbying has been to prevent the US from mandating sideloading, but they wouldn't be arguing for, say, a full-on ban of sideloading purely to distolerate our hypothetical EU worldwide DMA requirement.
- solarkraft 3y agoThe punishments for GDPR and DMA non-compliance are also related to worldwide turnover, rather than something local.
- andrepew 3y agoGDPR can apply extraterritorially but not to the extent you're suggesting. For example, I am an EU citizen living in Canada. GDPR does not apply to any company interacting with me. However, for a US citizen living in an EU country GDPR would apply to every company they interact with. Even US based companies.
- WirelessGigabit 3y ago> For example, I am an EU citizen living in Canada. GDPR does not apply to any company interacting with me. Weirdly enough that is not true. The sheer fact that you are an EU citizen covers you under GDPR. Now, you may not have recorse as the company you're dealing with does not have an entity in Europe that you could sue.