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I mean classic example are contracting out food service in the corporate cafeteria. You contract the work to some random other company who hire people to do foo
by tick_tock_tick 3y ago
I mean classic example are contracting out food service in the corporate cafeteria. You contract the work to some random other company who hire people to do food service or do you want Google or whoever to start hiring cooks themselves? Janitorial staff is also a classic role for this style of employment.
- whatshisface 3y agoThat's quite different - Google contracts for a service to be provided and takes no interest in managing janitors and cooks individually. The red badgers sound like they're being given individual instructions but denied employee protection.
- chii 3y agobut looking at it from a top down perspective, it does seem like google treats these contractors no better than the janitors and cooks. So i dont think you can say it's different merely because the nature of the work is not the same.
- whatshisface 3y agoGoogle doesn't treat janitors any way. They treat the building services company. They do treat the contract programmers a certain way.
- hef19898 3y agoTwo different kind of outsourcing contracts. And red badgers, unless they are freelancers, have employee protection. Just not from Google, or any other company using subcontracting agencies for that matter.
- bradleyjg 3y agoThe difference between a legitimate third party service and these ought-to-be-illegal body shop arrangements is whether Google is paying for a specific service—e.g. clean offices—or people that they boss around.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago> or do you want Google or whoever to start hiring cooks themselves? Yes? Whats wrong with hiring a cook if you need to cook?
- lazide 3y agoBecause Google has no idea how to manage or hire cooks?
- astrange 3y agoIt's just as easy to hire a chef as it is to hire a catering service.
- vasco 3y agoGoogle managed to hire their first chef in 1999 and manage them directly, I'm sure they can manage a global team of cooks better than anyone else if they wanted to, because of their specific needs and so many global offices to spread the gains through. It's all just a decision they took.
- lazide 3y agoWhat they did with Ayer’s was so clearly unsustainable (and disproportionate) it’s a classic story in the business world of giving away the farm. Anyone doing that at scale is going bankrupt quickly. Which is the point.