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How would one go about working at google as a junior fullstack developer? I wanted to work remote or onsite in germany but there seem to be no open positions

by xnacly 3y ago

okdood64 3y ago
Brand yourself as a software engineer instead of fullstack developer, network to find a referral, LeetCode hard.
- hbn 3y ago
  This is maybe getting offtopic but I still have no idea why the term "full stack developer" exists or why it's so widespread. Sure, if you specialize in JavaScript and you mainly work writing web UI libraries, you might mainly consider yourself a "frontend developer." Same thing for working on server frameworks that would, I guess, make you a "backend developer"? (I'd think in that case you'd probably just be into general programming, and not call yourself that) Does a person that wires up a backend to do some business logic, hit some APIs, etc. and then send it to a frontend to be displayed really need a name like "full stack"? It almost implies your doing both of the jobs of a frontend and backend developer, but if you go by the example work I mentioned previously, you're not doing that. That's what I do for my job and it feels like I'm doing the Sesame Street of programming jobs compared to other areas of the industry. I don't like how the term "software engineer" is overused either. Maybe just cause most of what comes out of the software industry really shouldn't be compared to what comes out of industries that build bridges and large machinery. I don't feel like people who regularly joke about copy-pasting code snippets from Stack Overflow are really implementing proper engineering practices.
  - okdood64 3y ago
    > I don't feel like people who regularly joke about copy-pasting code snippets from Stack Overflow are really implementing proper engineering practices. I think most people say this in jest; regardless, writing low-effort code that would be "helped" by this practice is just a small part of the job anyways.
  - erik_seaberg 3y ago
    As a backend dev, I probably know which teams are calling me but not necessarily why, and I rarely have occasion to try to read their code. I can’t call myself full stack because I haven’t seriously touched frontend for a while and it changes rapidly.
- max_hammer 3y ago
  Does google hire Data Engineers ? What is the title for data engineer
  - okdood64 3y ago
    I don't work there, but yes. Almost every tech company hires Data Engineer types these days.
compiler-guy 3y ago
Google isn't hiring much right now, so the options are pretty limited. I expect it will loosen, but have no inside info.
guessmyname 3y ago
Definitely DO NOT work remotely as a junior developer. Achieving the appropriate career progression requires meaningful interactions with your more experienced colleagues, which may be limited in a remote work environment. That said, here is a small list of things you’ll need to get a job at Google or any of the other Big Tech companies: • Educational Background: it seems that you’re a student at https://www.dhbw.de/startseite https://www.dhbw.de/startseite, so you’re good. • Develop Technical Skills: you’re already familiar with Go (https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories&language=go https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories&language=go). Consider getting some knowledge of C++ or Python as they are common at Google. Python will help you a lot during the interviews. • Build a Strong Portfolio: junior developers usually have much more free time to work on personal projects. I see you already have a GitHub account with a good amount of Go code, so I think you’re on the right track -- https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories • Gain Practical Experience: consider internships, co-op programs, or contribute to open-source projects, participate in hackathons or coding competitions to demonstrate your problem-solving skills. • Networking: attend industry events, meetups, and conferences to connect with professionals in the field. Google often looks for candidates through referrals. Join relevant online communities, forums, and social media groups to stay informed about job opportunities and industry trends. • Prepare for Interviews: LeetCode like a madman! -- https://leetcode.com/problem-list/top-google-questions/ https://leetcode.com/problem-list/top-google-questions/ • Apply for Positions: obviously, apply for a job; connect with a recruiter. I could go on and on with this list, but you’ll discover the other things you’ll need once you have done most of the ones above. Good luck!
- dmitrygr 3y ago
  > which may be limited in a remote work environment. That "may" is carrying a lot of weight there. Almost makes it sound like a fact, while in fact being merely an unsupported opinion.
  - phyrex 3y ago
    It’s also the conclusion that meta made after hiring remotely during Covid and observing how that went
EspressoGPT 3y ago
First and foremost, remove that red "Google is actively hurting the open web with its browser chromium" banner from your personal website[1]. [1] https://xnacly.me/ https://xnacly.me/

How would one go about working at google as a junior fullstack developer? I wanted to work remote or onsite in germany but there seem to be no open positions

by xnacly 3y ago

How would one go about working at google as a junior fullstack developer? I wanted to work remote or onsite in germany but there seem to be no open positions

okdood64 3y ago

Brand yourself as a software engineer instead of fullstack developer, network to find a referral, LeetCode hard.

hbn 3y ago
This is maybe getting offtopic but I still have no idea why the term "full stack developer" exists or why it's so widespread. Sure, if you specialize in JavaScript and you mainly work writing web UI libraries, you might mainly consider yourself a "frontend developer." Same thing for working on server frameworks that would, I guess, make you a "backend developer"? (I'd think in that case you'd probably just be into general programming, and not call yourself that) Does a person that wires up a backend to do some business logic, hit some APIs, etc. and then send it to a frontend to be displayed really need a name like "full stack"? It almost implies your doing both of the jobs of a frontend and backend developer, but if you go by the example work I mentioned previously, you're not doing that. That's what I do for my job and it feels like I'm doing the Sesame Street of programming jobs compared to other areas of the industry. I don't like how the term "software engineer" is overused either. Maybe just cause most of what comes out of the software industry really shouldn't be compared to what comes out of industries that build bridges and large machinery. I don't feel like people who regularly joke about copy-pasting code snippets from Stack Overflow are really implementing proper engineering practices.
- okdood64 3y ago
  > I don't feel like people who regularly joke about copy-pasting code snippets from Stack Overflow are really implementing proper engineering practices. I think most people say this in jest; regardless, writing low-effort code that would be "helped" by this practice is just a small part of the job anyways.
- erik_seaberg 3y ago
  As a backend dev, I probably know which teams are calling me but not necessarily why, and I rarely have occasion to try to read their code. I can’t call myself full stack because I haven’t seriously touched frontend for a while and it changes rapidly.
max_hammer 3y ago
Does google hire Data Engineers ? What is the title for data engineer
- okdood64 3y ago
  I don't work there, but yes. Almost every tech company hires Data Engineer types these days.

compiler-guy 3y ago

Google isn't hiring much right now, so the options are pretty limited. I expect it will loosen, but have no inside info.

guessmyname 3y ago

Definitely DO NOT work remotely as a junior developer. Achieving the appropriate career progression requires meaningful interactions with your more experienced colleagues, which may be limited in a remote work environment. That said, here is a small list of things you’ll need to get a job at Google or any of the other Big Tech companies: • Educational Background: it seems that you’re a student at https://www.dhbw.de/startseite https://www.dhbw.de/startseite, so you’re good. • Develop Technical Skills: you’re already familiar with Go (https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories&language=go https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories&language=go). Consider getting some knowledge of C++ or Python as they are common at Google. Python will help you a lot during the interviews. • Build a Strong Portfolio: junior developers usually have much more free time to work on personal projects. I see you already have a GitHub account with a good amount of Go code, so I think you’re on the right track -- https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories https://github.com/xNaCly?tab=repositories • Gain Practical Experience: consider internships, co-op programs, or contribute to open-source projects, participate in hackathons or coding competitions to demonstrate your problem-solving skills. • Networking: attend industry events, meetups, and conferences to connect with professionals in the field. Google often looks for candidates through referrals. Join relevant online communities, forums, and social media groups to stay informed about job opportunities and industry trends. • Prepare for Interviews: LeetCode like a madman! -- https://leetcode.com/problem-list/top-google-questions/ https://leetcode.com/problem-list/top-google-questions/ • Apply for Positions: obviously, apply for a job; connect with a recruiter. I could go on and on with this list, but you’ll discover the other things you’ll need once you have done most of the ones above. Good luck!

dmitrygr 3y ago
> which may be limited in a remote work environment. That "may" is carrying a lot of weight there. Almost makes it sound like a fact, while in fact being merely an unsupported opinion.
- phyrex 3y ago
  It’s also the conclusion that meta made after hiring remotely during Covid and observing how that went

EspressoGPT 3y ago

First and foremost, remove that red "Google is actively hurting the open web with its browser chromium" banner from your personal website[1]. [1] https://xnacly.me/ https://xnacly.me/