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> The only explanation I see for thinking that Covid has "disappeared", is that barely anyone still tests. That and barely anyone still dies (excess of eg the

> The only explanation I see for thinking that Covid has "disappeared", is that barely anyone still tests. That and barely anyone still dies (excess of eg the flu which kills a bunch of people each year)

chx 3y ago
Dying is no longer that much of a concern indeed thanks for the jabs (got my 6th this week) but long covid very much is.
- NoGravitas 3y ago
  And long COVID significantly increases your risk of death from other causes, including heart attack and stroke. I did read recently that a long course of acyclovir may be a working treatment, possibly even cure, for long COVID. But in order to get that out to people, we'd have to start taking long COVID seriously.
- all2 3y ago
  I'm on 0 jabs (apparently they don't slow transmission or virality, so I figured I wouldn't bother) and long covid is still really rough. A few things helped me get through long covid: surprisingly, nicotine and a lot of natural carbs from fresh ripe fruits. And by an excess, I mean 200+ grams a day by macro. It took me a month or two of nicotine gum, about 100lbs of fruit (12.5lbs a week) and so much sleep, but I'm starting to do better. It sucks, but you can make it through.
  - _ugfj 3y ago
    do not listen to this guy. long covid is not something you can combat with fresh fruits, it can cause a life long disability, brain damage and more. it's quite obvious an anti-vaxxer would try to dismiss it as a "sucks but you can make it through". Look up the stories of people who still can barely get out of bed after years of long covid.
    - all2 3y ago
      I'm offering what worked for me. There's other stuff out there that might work, but I haven't tried. For example, I've heard folks talk about paxlovid working to alleviate symptoms, or using standard courses of antivirals, and so on. I'm here sharing my own experience. If I've dismissed anyone, I sincerely apologize. That was not my intent. When I say "it sucks, but you can make it through" my desire is to offer hope to a group of people - that I'm a part of - that often lacks hope given the severity of their symptoms. As for efficacy, I'd invite you to look into mitochondrial dysfunction and how long covid is related. I'll note that a carb heavy diet is one of the ways to reboot energy production on the body, which can be potent for reducing fatigue.
      - _ugfj 3y ago
        > I'm offering what worked for me I choose not to believe you because you refused to vaccinate which makes everything you say suspect. Sorry.
        all2 3y ago
        > suspect Why?
        _ugfj 3y ago
        Because anti vaxxers want to downplay the disease to convince people not to get the vaccine.
        all2 3y ago
        Given the tenor of discourse around C19, I cannot blame you for making this generalization. I'm not even offended. It's a shitty place to be when no one can hear anyone else because the conversation is so volatile. There's definitely division here. The gramscian Marxists would be proud. We've been played straight out of Rules For Radicals. I'll note that I haven't done what you've accused me of, though. Perhaps that counts for something, Perhaps not.
- capr 3y ago
  hey if the 6th doesn't work, there's always the 7th
chx 3y ago
Actually, I looked this up for you. https://derekfranksmusings.substack.com/p/theres-no-such-thing-as-mild-covid https://derekfranksmusings.substack.com/p/theres-no-such-thi... > You see, covid is NOT really a respiratory illness. Researchers at Oxford University call it a “Serious Vascular Disease with Primary Symptoms of a Respiratory Ailment”. So, you need to stop comparing it to colds and flus. No cold killed 30,000+ Americans in less than two months in 2023. Covid did so in January and February. So, please stop comparing them.
- berdario 3y ago
  Thanks for sharing that article, there's also another recent one with plenty of references about the clusterfuck of the current situation: https://www.normalcyfugitive.com/p/the-pandemic-isnt-over https://www.normalcyfugitive.com/p/the-pandemic-isnt-over One thing that (by skimming again) both articles don't touch is: excess deaths. I've seen people suggest that we're "past it", because the excess deaths (compared to 2 years before) are now subsiding... While ignoring the fact that excess deaths compared to 2 year before are comparing against when the first few COVID spikes happened (and we didn't have vaccines, so mortality was even higher). We need to compare our society excess mortality to 2019 (and/or average of years preceding 2020), for the foreseeable future :/ That said, I'm not spending 100% of my day worrying about COVID, and I don't take as many precautions as I could... I wear FFP2 masks in public transport, but I usually don't bother in the office, for example
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  It also does a number on your coronary arteries. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/heart-problems-after-covid19 https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...

chx 3y ago

Dying is no longer that much of a concern indeed thanks for the jabs (got my 6th this week) but long covid very much is.

NoGravitas 3y ago
And long COVID significantly increases your risk of death from other causes, including heart attack and stroke. I did read recently that a long course of acyclovir may be a working treatment, possibly even cure, for long COVID. But in order to get that out to people, we'd have to start taking long COVID seriously.
all2 3y ago
I'm on 0 jabs (apparently they don't slow transmission or virality, so I figured I wouldn't bother) and long covid is still really rough. A few things helped me get through long covid: surprisingly, nicotine and a lot of natural carbs from fresh ripe fruits. And by an excess, I mean 200+ grams a day by macro. It took me a month or two of nicotine gum, about 100lbs of fruit (12.5lbs a week) and so much sleep, but I'm starting to do better. It sucks, but you can make it through.
- _ugfj 3y ago
  do not listen to this guy. long covid is not something you can combat with fresh fruits, it can cause a life long disability, brain damage and more. it's quite obvious an anti-vaxxer would try to dismiss it as a "sucks but you can make it through". Look up the stories of people who still can barely get out of bed after years of long covid.
  - all2 3y ago
    I'm offering what worked for me. There's other stuff out there that might work, but I haven't tried. For example, I've heard folks talk about paxlovid working to alleviate symptoms, or using standard courses of antivirals, and so on. I'm here sharing my own experience. If I've dismissed anyone, I sincerely apologize. That was not my intent. When I say "it sucks, but you can make it through" my desire is to offer hope to a group of people - that I'm a part of - that often lacks hope given the severity of their symptoms. As for efficacy, I'd invite you to look into mitochondrial dysfunction and how long covid is related. I'll note that a carb heavy diet is one of the ways to reboot energy production on the body, which can be potent for reducing fatigue.
    - _ugfj 3y ago
      > I'm offering what worked for me I choose not to believe you because you refused to vaccinate which makes everything you say suspect. Sorry.
      - all2 3y ago
        > suspect Why?
        _ugfj 3y ago
        Because anti vaxxers want to downplay the disease to convince people not to get the vaccine.
        all2 3y ago
        Given the tenor of discourse around C19, I cannot blame you for making this generalization. I'm not even offended. It's a shitty place to be when no one can hear anyone else because the conversation is so volatile. There's definitely division here. The gramscian Marxists would be proud. We've been played straight out of Rules For Radicals. I'll note that I haven't done what you've accused me of, though. Perhaps that counts for something, Perhaps not.
capr 3y ago
hey if the 6th doesn't work, there's always the 7th

chx 3y ago

Actually, I looked this up for you. https://derekfranksmusings.substack.com/p/theres-no-such-thing-as-mild-covid https://derekfranksmusings.substack.com/p/theres-no-such-thi... > You see, covid is NOT really a respiratory illness. Researchers at Oxford University call it a “Serious Vascular Disease with Primary Symptoms of a Respiratory Ailment”. So, you need to stop comparing it to colds and flus. No cold killed 30,000+ Americans in less than two months in 2023. Covid did so in January and February. So, please stop comparing them.

berdario 3y ago
Thanks for sharing that article, there's also another recent one with plenty of references about the clusterfuck of the current situation: https://www.normalcyfugitive.com/p/the-pandemic-isnt-over https://www.normalcyfugitive.com/p/the-pandemic-isnt-over One thing that (by skimming again) both articles don't touch is: excess deaths. I've seen people suggest that we're "past it", because the excess deaths (compared to 2 years before) are now subsiding... While ignoring the fact that excess deaths compared to 2 year before are comparing against when the first few COVID spikes happened (and we didn't have vaccines, so mortality was even higher). We need to compare our society excess mortality to 2019 (and/or average of years preceding 2020), for the foreseeable future :/ That said, I'm not spending 100% of my day worrying about COVID, and I don't take as many precautions as I could... I wear FFP2 masks in public transport, but I usually don't bother in the office, for example
tibbydudeza 3y ago
It also does a number on your coronary arteries. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/heart-problems-after-covid19 https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...