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EU agrees to introduce eID ignoring privacy concerns
- denysvitali 3y ago> We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back.
- Yeul 3y agoIf no-one kicks up a fuss that means they agree with it. You'll be amazed how quickly people educate themselves on something they actually give a shit about.
- gumby 3y agoCan citizens vote for MEPs even if they are not resident in their home country?
- bestham 3y agoNo
- gpderetta 3y agoDepends on the country. I can vote for Italian EU Parliament elections from UK, where I live.
- kentrado 3y agoIf you live outside the EU, you can usually vote in the EU elections in your home country's embassy or consulate. However, some countries don't allow you to vote from outside your home country.
- usr1106 3y agoInside EU you vote in your country of residence or in the country you have citizenship. You can choose. If you move out of EU you vote in your home country. I guess the exact procedure depends on your home country, some allow mail ballots others require you to come to the embassy.
- Ekaros 3y agoDepends on country but for Finland for example they can. Alternatively they can vote in EU country they are resident in, if they sign up for that.
- jsiepkes 3y agoDon't know if you are asking this because of general interest or if it's specific for this MP, so just FYI: While your opinion might align with him on this topic he has some very outspoken opinions on other topics where you might have a different opinion (or not). For example Rob Roos is also an very outspoken anti-vaccine and against climate legislation.
- alphanullmeric 3y agoWho could’ve guessed, coming from some of the biggest violators of financial privacy in the world.
- euroderf 3y agoFinancial privacy is overrated. Tax havens full of shell companies are a blight. YMMV.
- alphanullmeric 3y agoWe worry less about other people’s money from this side of the ocean. You lack the consistency to make a statement of support/opposition about all privacy, because like other Europeans, you feel the need to make exceptions for cases that benefit you.
- euroderf 3y agoWow that's a lot to unpack. But more productive endeavors beckon.
- alphanullmeric 3y agoNo, it isn’t. “Do you support privacy” is a yes or no question, not a “depends on for who” question.
- euroderf 3y agoPrivacy for what, exactly ? Let's nail the jello to the wall.
- alphanullmeric 3y agoAny kind of privacy. I don’t cherry pick like Europeans do.
- cubefox 3y ago> I am not optimistic. But it is not too late yet. Parliament still has to vote about this. Let your MEP know that you oppose the Digital Identity and that you want your MEP to vote against it!
- isodev 3y agoWhat are these privacy concerns though? I live in Belgium and we’ve had eID for ages - it’s fast, easy and convenient.
- sMarsIntruder 3y agoIt’s a Trojan horse for the CBDC, or Digital Euro. That is a really privacy nightmare.
- IlPeach 3y agoHave no idea what this is all about, and the link being on X doesn't help either.
- isodev 3y agoThis is not about payments or crypto, eID is the electronic identity card system which also allows you to "Sign in with eID" (like Sign in with Apple) on government websites and organizations that require your real identity to provide service.
- zorrolovsky 3y agoAnd we all know how things go from there. First, eID is implemented as "just another, more convenient way to log in to your online services". Then, private organizations get pressure to implement eID (through soft power or legislation). Major forums and news websites adopt eID. As the user base grows, legacy semi-anonymous ID systems get decommissioned progressively (i.e. simple email). Now every action you perform on the Internet, and every opinion you post is directly tied to your legal ID. Authorities can use that to prosecute dissenters, oppress voices and narratives contrary to their interests. The bad guys will still have their spaces as they will use their own tech. Call me a conspiracist, cynic or pessimistic, but in some countries like the UK people are getting police visits for having the wrong opinion on Twitter. We're giving authoritarians way too much space and tools for oppression. We're building a shitty world where the powerful class will have even more power to do as they wish, and the man in the street have less and less rights and tools to fight against power.
- akomtu 3y agoWhich EU? The parliament or the commisars?
- Kim_Bruning 3y agoThis is part of a wider strategy that also includes the QUACs people were talking about earlier: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/european-digital-identity_en https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... I'm not sure what to think about this strategy. On one hand they do seem to be trying to put together a unified coherent system. On the other there's a lot of experts saying they're making a hash of it.
- olivierduval 3y agoActually, Europe reasoning is quite simple: - Since "forever", laws apply to a specific PHYSICAL region (that's the basis for a concept of "government", be it democracy or other). These laws are enforced by "law enforcement forces", starting with "border law inforcement forces" - Between "etatic entities" there is "treaties" agreed by parties - But "the Internet" messed everything up: suddenly no law could be enforced because the was no VIRTUAL region with a "government" matching the PHYSICAL region Different governement solved this problem with different solutions: - China / Russia... used some kind of "Great firewall" - US used some kind of "soft power" (owning the main infrastructure + main economic actors + extraterritorial laws) Europe decided to find a mix between those: limiting US "soft power" with more rules (DSA, DMA), trying to develop European economic competitor... and limiting people abilty to escape to a "lawless internet with anonimity"
- betaby 3y ago> - China / Russia... used some kind of "Great firewall" Also add to the list UK, DE, CH, IT, BG, probably others in Euro area. Implementation varies, but most of the time DNS level blocking, sometimes plain old ACL to block IP. Varies on country-per-country basis. Source - I consult ISPs across the world (fortunately not about blocking).
- t43562 3y agoBad luck Mozilla and Google. A slight loosening of their stranglehold.