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"I'm calling from Israeli intelligence"
- Neil44 3y agoI've heard of 'knocking' before as well, where they drop something that just makes a big bang on the roof a while before the main event.
- petesergeant 3y ago[flagged]
- throwawaysleep 3y agoThe local authority would rather everyone in those buildings have died.
- T1tt 3y ago[flagged]
- mdp2021 3y ago> they must be the most restraint army in the world It is unbelievable that basic decency comes as surprise. It is as if some only met beasts and never met a Man. Beasts should be seen as the exception - even when overwhelming in number.
- throwawaysleep 3y ago[flagged]
- asddubs 3y agoWeird to see all these comments calling the army generous. They didn't have to bomb a civilian block at all.
- throwawaysleep 3y ago[flagged]
- asddubs 3y agoShould your house be bombed if someone down the street is building a bomb in their garage?
- throwawaysleep 3y agoI would absolutely expect my house to be bombed if my government was building bombs in the homes nearby. Heck in pretty much every other war, you could expect to be bombed in you worked in a factory building the bombs. On the other hand, I would not have voted for them in the first place. I also love my family, so when a military tells me to evacuate a city, I would be getting out of there no matter what.
- asddubs 3y agomaybe Israel should bomb itself then? https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
- defrost 3y agoThe overwhelming majority of those being bombed were were not part of the 44.45% that voted for Hamas in the 2006 election. Certainly none of the ~ 3K children killed by the IDF in recent weeks voted.
- candiodari 3y agoThere's this video from a woman reporter in Gaza taking a video, and casually a rocket flies out from behind her. Either from her building directly, and if not the launch site must have been very close by. She turns around, say "oh that happens all the time", and goes on, as if nothing happened. I can't find the video of the Palestinian reporter actually laughing it off, but there's these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqWqjb4w6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqWqjb4w6s Obviously if this happens, you leave the area and don't come back. And if you don't leave, you don't complain about a rocket coming back. And of course, no explanation from anyone for the effects on the other side. Because everyone is saying "Israel stops most of these rockets and less people die there". And because of that, Israel should just tolerate this. People in Israel should just accept they live under constant rocket fire. THAT, is apparently not worth disturbing comfortable apartments of people in Gaza ... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-01/ty-article/.premium/hospital-serving-israels-most-bombarded-city-operating-at-30-percent-capacity/0000018b-8887-dd28-a7df-9897d1dd0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-01/ty-article/.p... How anyone can even suggest Gazans have any kind of moral high ground when they're not doing anything about this, how they expect to go about their lives undisturbed while their apartments are being used to kill people ...
- PhilipJFry 3y agoPrevious post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38187301 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38187301
- throwawaysleep 3y agoThat is this post.
- PhilipJFry 3y agoIt may be now, but were two separate threads before. Probably merged by mods. :)
- T1tt 3y agowhy is politics/news even on hackernews?
- mdp2021 3y agoThis is «politics» in terms of game theory, it is «news» in terms of occasion, and can claim some right to be here for its share of intellectual interest in the dynamics involved.
- T1tt 3y agoyou know what would be a more interesting discussion? how russia and iran are using any army of bots and people behind the screen to sway public opinion; our actual democracy has been errroding for years and noone wants to talk about it.
- mdp2021 3y ago> and noone wants to talk about it Except we actually «talk about it» very frequently: we are well aware of the presence of informational warfare also after the articles so frequently published about it.
- vaylian 3y agoWhy shouldn't it be? Learning about unusual and sometimes grim things that are outside of our bubble is a good thing.
- jiggawatts 3y agoOne side is trying to minimise civilian causalities, and is failing to completely achieve that. The other side is trying to maximise civilian causalities, and is failing to completely achieve that. I'll let you choose which you think has the moral high ground. Use the up vote button if you think minimisation is good, and down vote if you think maximisation is good.
- asddubs 3y agoThis logic only works if in your mind hamas = palestine
- orionsbelt 3y agoYou can only say that America was the morally superior party in WW2 if in your mind Nazis = Germany. At that time, for purposes of the war, that was true, as the Nazis controlled Germany, just like Hamas now controls Gaza. That’s not to say innocent people aren’t sadly dying, but that’s the case in any war.
- mathieuh 3y agoBy the same token then you must agree that all Israelis are responsible for the horrific conditions that have prevailed in Gaza for decades, as well as the settler violence in the west bank, and apartheid. Which is obviously not true. To say otherwise and treat Israelis or Jews as a monolithic block is one of the classic anti-semitic tropes. So why is it different when it's the Palestinians?
- orionsbelt 3y agoI did not say Palestinians were a monolithic block or that civilians deserve to die. I am saying that if you want to analyze which side of a war that you support, it does kind of reduce down to the governments in power (or the non-state actor you are fighting). Whether you believe the US-Afghan war was just, or the US-Vietnam war, or the Russian-Ukraine war, or US vs Germany in WW2, or Israel vs Gaza, reduces down to what you believe about the respective governments and their actions at that time, not based on the average man on the street and does not require one to assume that all citizens support their government or anything really about the average citizen.
- tomjen3 3y agoHn should not be a place to post obvious propaganda.
- throwitagain27 3y ago[flagged]
- foogazi 3y agoWhat kind of tech is avail to reach someone’s phone like that ? Is that kind of localized warning available in the US ?