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Wait, so they have an ECS game engine with a AAA renderer and nanite-like tech along with a lua based scripting engine and Hollywood level facial animation? Th

Wait, so they have an ECS game engine with a AAA renderer and nanite-like tech along with a lua based scripting engine and Hollywood level facial animation? They should release the engine. It's a solid competitor to Unreal (more scalable due to ECS, easier to write with Luau)

dixie_land 3y ago
When I got my 3090 back when it was first released, I was excited to finally play Control with ray tracing on, no luck. Now with Alan Wake 2 it barely runs High with ray tracing off. It's a visually stunning engine but it's just too demanding IMO.
- jjj123 3y ago
  I was playing on a 3080 and i second this. It was way too demanding for my card, at least with any ray tracing on. I just upgraded to a 4080 and it runs flawlessly though, I guess they were targeting 40-series cards for anything raytraced.
starcraft2wol 3y ago
Lots of studios do. Turning internal software into a product for others is a different thing.
- jamesfinlayson 3y ago
  Yeah, even Valve have (maybe surprisingly) chosen not to license the Source 2 engine.
  - paavohtl 3y ago
    That's technically not true – they've licensed it out to Facepunch to create a sequel to Garry's Mod (which was one of the most popular Source 1 games): https://sbox.facepunch.com/about/ https://sbox.facepunch.com/about/. It is the only one we are aware of though.
    - rip_netrunner 3y ago
      Probably because it's still incredibly buggy? That's my impression watching some of the videos posted to the counterstrike subreddit.
      - paavohtl 3y ago
        I don't think the engine itself is buggy, or at least not all parts. Source 2 has been used in Dota 2 since 2015 and they also shipped Half-Life Alyx using it in 2020; neither is consider particularly buggy.
    - jamesfinlayson 3y ago
      True yes - but Source 2 is now eight years old (and has been in development for probably 14 years) and has only been licensed once. I won't be surprised if there are some other licensees eventually but it seems like Valve isn't overly interested in making the engine usable in the same way that Unreal, CryEngine, Frostbite etc are.
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a2128 3y ago
Epic Games funded the development of Alan Wake 2 and the game is also an Epic Games Store exclusive (which I painfully found out wanting to buy the game but being on Linux), so I assume competing with Unreal would burn some bridges there
- Cu3PO42 3y ago
  Epic Games-compatible launchers exist for Linux, so you can still buy and play the game (it seems to work fine with Proton).
- zirgs 3y ago
  Epic Store works on Linux too. Tried it with steam deck.
djmips 3y ago
I feel like calling it nanite-like is going to far. They have adopted the meshlet pipeline but that's mainstream for bleeding edge rendering. I haven't seen any mention of using compute shaders to actually render small triangles like nanite does but maybe I missed something?

dixie_land 3y ago

When I got my 3090 back when it was first released, I was excited to finally play Control with ray tracing on, no luck. Now with Alan Wake 2 it barely runs High with ray tracing off. It's a visually stunning engine but it's just too demanding IMO.

jjj123 3y ago
I was playing on a 3080 and i second this. It was way too demanding for my card, at least with any ray tracing on. I just upgraded to a 4080 and it runs flawlessly though, I guess they were targeting 40-series cards for anything raytraced.

starcraft2wol 3y ago

Lots of studios do. Turning internal software into a product for others is a different thing.

jamesfinlayson 3y ago
Yeah, even Valve have (maybe surprisingly) chosen not to license the Source 2 engine.
- paavohtl 3y ago
  That's technically not true – they've licensed it out to Facepunch to create a sequel to Garry's Mod (which was one of the most popular Source 1 games): https://sbox.facepunch.com/about/ https://sbox.facepunch.com/about/. It is the only one we are aware of though.
  - rip_netrunner 3y ago
    Probably because it's still incredibly buggy? That's my impression watching some of the videos posted to the counterstrike subreddit.
    - paavohtl 3y ago
      I don't think the engine itself is buggy, or at least not all parts. Source 2 has been used in Dota 2 since 2015 and they also shipped Half-Life Alyx using it in 2020; neither is consider particularly buggy.
  - jamesfinlayson 3y ago
    True yes - but Source 2 is now eight years old (and has been in development for probably 14 years) and has only been licensed once. I won't be surprised if there are some other licensees eventually but it seems like Valve isn't overly interested in making the engine usable in the same way that Unreal, CryEngine, Frostbite etc are.

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a2128 3y ago

Epic Games funded the development of Alan Wake 2 and the game is also an Epic Games Store exclusive (which I painfully found out wanting to buy the game but being on Linux), so I assume competing with Unreal would burn some bridges there

Cu3PO42 3y ago
Epic Games-compatible launchers exist for Linux, so you can still buy and play the game (it seems to work fine with Proton).
zirgs 3y ago
Epic Store works on Linux too. Tried it with steam deck.

djmips 3y ago

I feel like calling it nanite-like is going to far. They have adopted the meshlet pipeline but that's mainstream for bleeding edge rendering. I haven't seen any mention of using compute shaders to actually render small triangles like nanite does but maybe I missed something?