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This is like saying developing modern rocket and satellite tech is bad because it can be used in missiles. Is GPS bad because it was made for questionable purpo

This is like saying developing modern rocket and satellite tech is bad because it can be used in missiles. Is GPS bad because it was made for questionable purposes before it was made available to the public? Without rockets we wouldn't even have WD-40 that was made to solve a certain rocket rusting. Pushing boundaries in tech has always had a positive effect to the general public, because even with an insane goal such as AGI we get a lot of tech that can be applied in different ways along the way that we can't even imagine.

vouaobrasil 3y ago
Positive effect: so climate change, species decimation, destruction of communities, etc? A positive effect? Can you be so sure that your comforts are worth that?
- mattsan 3y ago
  Climate change: rockets pollute less than planes with less harmful impurities (rocket propellant is heavily refined) while also allowing us to launch satellites that can help us study climate change, also helping farmers be more aware of their land through satellite monitoring. Also, some rockets use Hydrogen and Oxygen - waste is H2O. Modern rockets are starting to use Methane and Oxygen - while still polluting, it is still much less than the impure kerosene used by planes. Species decimation: Satellite imagery has been used to expose illegal farming, mining, etc. operations that would have been otherwise undetected for a long time. Yay biodiversity! Destruction of communities: Idk man I feel like Starlink is helping communities a lot by providing cheap and fast shared internet to communities that wouldn't otherwise have the technology. It's not just my comforts that I'm thinking about. Rockets while individually may be seen as useless, just like AI, are a platform where a lot of overwhelmingly positive projects could stem from. The critiques you mentioned could be applied to mobile phones. I doubt you would actually agree phones have no place in society - it's not just comforts that are a positive.

vouaobrasil 3y ago

Positive effect: so climate change, species decimation, destruction of communities, etc? A positive effect? Can you be so sure that your comforts are worth that?

mattsan 3y ago
Climate change: rockets pollute less than planes with less harmful impurities (rocket propellant is heavily refined) while also allowing us to launch satellites that can help us study climate change, also helping farmers be more aware of their land through satellite monitoring. Also, some rockets use Hydrogen and Oxygen - waste is H2O. Modern rockets are starting to use Methane and Oxygen - while still polluting, it is still much less than the impure kerosene used by planes. Species decimation: Satellite imagery has been used to expose illegal farming, mining, etc. operations that would have been otherwise undetected for a long time. Yay biodiversity! Destruction of communities: Idk man I feel like Starlink is helping communities a lot by providing cheap and fast shared internet to communities that wouldn't otherwise have the technology. It's not just my comforts that I'm thinking about. Rockets while individually may be seen as useless, just like AI, are a platform where a lot of overwhelmingly positive projects could stem from. The critiques you mentioned could be applied to mobile phones. I doubt you would actually agree phones have no place in society - it's not just comforts that are a positive.