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This needs some more love. Consider the cycle of academic career: -Grad school for 5-8 years, averaging around 7 for most molecular and cellular biologists.
by polyfractal 15y ago
This needs some more love. Consider the cycle of academic career:
-Grad school for 5-8 years, averaging around 7 for most molecular and cellular biologists. You make $23-28k a year depending on where you live. You steal whatever free food is lying around your department
-Post graduation, you obtain a Post-Doc position for ~2 years (if everything goes well). This pays ~40k/year, again varying depending on region.
-If you got lucky and had a successful Post-doc, skip to the next bullet. Otherwise, go back to the last bullet for another 2-8 years.
-Get a junior professor tenure-track position. Salary is much better, probably around 60-80k. You have five years to prove you are awesome. At five years, go to the next bullet
-Tenure review! How many awesome papers did you publish?
---Not enough? go try again at a different university...hopefully your family is willing to relocate or there is one nearby. If you fail tenure review twice, you get to be an adjunct professor (zero job security, crap salary) for the rest of your life.
---Well, you don't completely suck...so we are giving you another two years to prove tenure. Go back to the last bullet.
---Wow! You got tenure! Welcome to the elite minority that actually make tenure. You get a nice salary bump up to 100-150k, have total job security, do zero science anymore (glorified manager now) and are probably in your 40's. Feels good, huh?
And people wonder why things are slow in biology? If this was a sales funnel, you would notice hideous conversion rates between all the steps. People burn out because of intense competition for few spots, crappy salary and crappy hours.
If you work finance, you may work 90 hour weeks but at least you make lots of money. In biology...you work 70 hour weeks for food stamps and the hope of getting tenure when you are 40.
- alexholehouse 15y agoThe difference is people rarely go into academic research for money - it's not just a job, it's a lifestyle choice. If you wanted to do research and receive better compensation you could work in industry or for a government lab - still research but less freedom.
- polyfractal 15y agoSure, but the harsh reality of life often gets in the way of your lifestyle choice. I've known several post-docs that have a wife and kids...and zero in savings because they only make $40k a year. Not everyone can afford to continue "doing what they love" when they have a family to provide for. A lot of these people leave academic research to take up industry jobs where they reformulate cholesterol medication or research new ways to cure allergies. I personally got out of biology because I enjoy software engineering just as much, but one compensates so much more in terms of pay. If I was making an equal salary in biology, there would be a good chance I would still be there trying to solve the world's problems. So I suppose that's my point. Not everyone has the willpower, option or incentive to stay in a field they would otherwise enjoy working in, simply because of the timescale involved and the meager financial pay.
- ArtB 15y agoBut with better compensation you would have brilliant minds who are only interested in a paycheck looking into the data as well and they would still produce results. Frankly, I'd rather these greedy minds look for cancer cures than into creating new exotic financial instruments.