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this is a good solution but doesn't protect the face. zinc oxide (physical sunscreen) is a good choice for the face that doesn't have the problems in the articl

this is a good solution but doesn't protect the face. zinc oxide (physical sunscreen) is a good choice for the face that doesn't have the problems in the article. Of course, zinc oxide looks terrible - white hue - but there are some that are not as bad as others. I use Neutrogena Sheer Zinc Kids (roll-on, so adults and kids can use it easily). After a little rubbing, it's still noticeable but just barely. The "regular" neutrogena sunblock - lotion style - has one or more of the chemicals that break down into benzene. Some of them were in the FDA recall. The EWG article doesn't mention these break down into benzene. It shoulld. ConsumerLabs did a thorough review and analysis. The summer 2023 Consumer Reports (not ConsumerLabs) article on sunscreen had absolutely no mention of the sunscreen recalls (2021, 2022, 2023) and in fact recommended some products that had been recalled and are known to break down into benzene and benzophenone. Any residual respect I had for them is now gone.

copperx 3y ago
Tinted zinc oxide face sunscreen is fantastic, and it covers face blemishes. It's like makeup lite. Zinc/titanium oxide for the body is a more problematic, I've haven't found a brand that blends well.
- TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
  Titanium dioxide protects primarily against UVB and much less so for UVA. Zinc oxide protects against both.
stronglikedan 3y ago
I found a good reef friendly zinc oxide (All Good Zinc Butter Sunscreen) that doesn't give the white sheen when you rub it in really well. A lil' dab'll do ya, as they say.
- Moru 3y ago
  Don't sunscreen need to be pretty thick to be as good as it says on the label?
  - ruszki 3y ago
    I read somewhere that most of the people need SPF50+, because they apply it “badly”, AKA not enough, and definitely not often enough.
talldatethrow 3y ago
How does one get their required sun for vitamin D if taking sunscreen so seriously?
- galangalalgol 3y ago
  I still wear a hat, or cover up entirely if I will be out all day, but the fern based pills like helicare or solaricare or whatever seem to prevent me from burning, or even reverse a mild burn if I take it fast enough. I have no idea if it is preventing dna damage that would lead to cancer. But I get a little tan by the end of the summer. And I've never done that before. My dermatologist recommended it so it must be fine...
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    Judging by the amount of people that are Vitamin D deficient according to the medical community, makes me really wonder if the medical community would think twice about giving you tips that make you continue being vitamin D deficient. It doesn't seem to be important to them.
  - roldie 3y ago
    I've never heard of these fern-based supplements before. How are they supposed to be better than other antioxidants?
- TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
  Vitamin D supplements + Vitamin K2
  - mmh0000 3y ago
    To add to this, you should also be getting regular (like twice a year) blood draws done to check where all your nutrient levels are. This way, you can decide which supplements and how much. Through this, I've learned that my Vit. D supplement works. My multivitamins work, and my B12 supplements work. My previous iron supplement was not working, and I was able to make a change to a different product. Then, six months later, a blood test showed my iron levels back in the normal range.
devit 3y ago
A silver-coated umbrella is very effective at protecting the face as well as some of the upper body (or the whole body, if the sun is directly overhead or the umbrella is huge), except for UV reflected from elsewhere which I think is usually not significant.
NikolaNovak 3y ago
Don't hats protect face reasonably well? (not talking baseball hats here:)
reaperman 3y ago
EltaMD has a "almost entirely invisible" zinc oxide sunblock as well.
- TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
  which one? they have 15 face sunscreens, and 8 body sunscreens, all with zinc oxide. can you please recommend? I want to try it. Thank you.
  - reaperman 3y ago
    UV Clear - https://eltamd.com/collections/face-sunscreen/products/uv-clear-broad-spectrum-spf-46 https://eltamd.com/collections/face-sunscreen/products/uv-cl... This is the one I enjoyed! But the new packaging shows "Active Ingredients: 9% Zinc Oxide, 7.5% Octinoxate" ... my older packaging didn't show Octinoxate, which is likely an endocrine disruptor. So I'm rather annoyed and can't recommend it anymore.
justinator 3y ago
I actually started using a mask for my face. My nose has never been more happier.

copperx 3y ago

Tinted zinc oxide face sunscreen is fantastic, and it covers face blemishes. It's like makeup lite. Zinc/titanium oxide for the body is a more problematic, I've haven't found a brand that blends well.

TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
Titanium dioxide protects primarily against UVB and much less so for UVA. Zinc oxide protects against both.

stronglikedan 3y ago

I found a good reef friendly zinc oxide (All Good Zinc Butter Sunscreen) that doesn't give the white sheen when you rub it in really well. A lil' dab'll do ya, as they say.

Moru 3y ago
Don't sunscreen need to be pretty thick to be as good as it says on the label?
- ruszki 3y ago
  I read somewhere that most of the people need SPF50+, because they apply it “badly”, AKA not enough, and definitely not often enough.

talldatethrow 3y ago

How does one get their required sun for vitamin D if taking sunscreen so seriously?

galangalalgol 3y ago
I still wear a hat, or cover up entirely if I will be out all day, but the fern based pills like helicare or solaricare or whatever seem to prevent me from burning, or even reverse a mild burn if I take it fast enough. I have no idea if it is preventing dna damage that would lead to cancer. But I get a little tan by the end of the summer. And I've never done that before. My dermatologist recommended it so it must be fine...
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  Judging by the amount of people that are Vitamin D deficient according to the medical community, makes me really wonder if the medical community would think twice about giving you tips that make you continue being vitamin D deficient. It doesn't seem to be important to them.
- roldie 3y ago
  I've never heard of these fern-based supplements before. How are they supposed to be better than other antioxidants?
TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
Vitamin D supplements + Vitamin K2
- mmh0000 3y ago
  To add to this, you should also be getting regular (like twice a year) blood draws done to check where all your nutrient levels are. This way, you can decide which supplements and how much. Through this, I've learned that my Vit. D supplement works. My multivitamins work, and my B12 supplements work. My previous iron supplement was not working, and I was able to make a change to a different product. Then, six months later, a blood test showed my iron levels back in the normal range.

devit 3y ago

A silver-coated umbrella is very effective at protecting the face as well as some of the upper body (or the whole body, if the sun is directly overhead or the umbrella is huge), except for UV reflected from elsewhere which I think is usually not significant.

NikolaNovak 3y ago

Don't hats protect face reasonably well? (not talking baseball hats here:)

reaperman 3y ago

EltaMD has a "almost entirely invisible" zinc oxide sunblock as well.

TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
which one? they have 15 face sunscreens, and 8 body sunscreens, all with zinc oxide. can you please recommend? I want to try it. Thank you.
- reaperman 3y ago
  UV Clear - https://eltamd.com/collections/face-sunscreen/products/uv-clear-broad-spectrum-spf-46 https://eltamd.com/collections/face-sunscreen/products/uv-cl... This is the one I enjoyed! But the new packaging shows "Active Ingredients: 9% Zinc Oxide, 7.5% Octinoxate" ... my older packaging didn't show Octinoxate, which is likely an endocrine disruptor. So I'm rather annoyed and can't recommend it anymore.

justinator 3y ago

I actually started using a mask for my face. My nose has never been more happier.