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In other words, a pickup truck! Not a giant SUV masquerading as one, with a 5ft bed and 5-passenger luxury car cab, with price to match. I'm old enough to rem
by MarkusWandel 3y ago
In other words, a pickup truck! Not a giant SUV masquerading as one, with a 5ft bed and 5-passenger luxury car cab, with price to match. I'm old enough to remember normal pickup trucks, affordable for actual "work" use, with bench seating for three, full 8x4 bed with half ton cargo capacity and not much else.
- jeffwask 3y agoI want a 15+ year old truck with this exact configuration as beater for dump and hardware/Lanscaping runs. They are virtually impossible to locate.
- paulddraper 3y agoYep. Their owners run them until they die because there is no replacement.
- daniel_reetz 3y agoI am one such owner. 1994 toyota pickup.
- m463 3y agoToyota used to have a pickup called "pickup" that was awesome. Small, light, but a full-sized bed. minimal with little to break - manual transmission, crank up windows, bench seat, etc. I guess they rely on full-sized american pickup habits and creative financing to get folks to buy more expensive and bulkier trucks.
- shartshooter 3y agoMy dad bought an ‘89 Toyota Pickup in ‘93 and, between he and I, we put 270k miles on the thing Extended cab, 5 speed manual. It was my first vehicle when I turned 16 and I loved it
- wkjagt 3y agoI think it's what was called the Hilux elsewhere, and Top Gear did a fun part about it showing how indestructible it was (spoiler: very).
- jeffwask 3y agoGreat episode.
- tehwebguy 3y agoSet up a Craigslist alert in your earnest few cities for Toyota within the model years you want and you’ll have one for under $5k in 45 days
- QuarterReptile 3y agoYou can still buy those, typically ex-contractor vehicles at auction. Crank windows, cloth bench, long bed, crappy radio.
- MarkusWandel 3y agoCloth bench? Luxury! The ones I remember were vinyl. And what do you mean a mono AM radio is crappy?
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoI have a 2 door late 2000’s Ford Ranger I’ve been driving for the past decade. Crank windows and the vinyl seats are falling apart and it’s my favorite vehicle I’ve ever owned. Low maintenance costs: only had one actual mechanical problem, bad coil pack, since I’ve owned it and I’ve had the sway bar replaced but otherwise nothing. other than that it’s only been batteries, oil and tires and registration/insurance. I bought a $200 vinyl tonneau cover off of Amazon a few years ago and the utility of the thing is just amazing for the price (I paid around $6000 USD for it in 2012). I recently replaced the crappy radio with a $40 unit with Bluetooth. I’ve been interested in upgrading it as it’s kind of getting old now and it would be nice to get something with CarPlay without having to do a retrofit but the main killer feature that’s just not available on consumer trucks anymore is the bed size. It’s extremely rare to find a truck with the features I want that still have a 6 ft bed size. There are so many things I haul around that fit exactly into that bed length
- gottorf 3y agoFor brand-new trucks, both GM (Chevy/GMC) as well as Ford make half-ton trucks with a regular cab and six-foot bed, which is the closest thing to what your Ranger is and can be optioned with CarPlay. Ram, unfortunately, stopped selling the regular cab 1500 Classic as of the last model year. Used availability varies, of course, but used cars are such a silly deal at the moment compared to new car pricing that it may not make sense. I'm a big fan of those "shorty" trucks.
- cameldrv 3y agoAll of the mid-size trucks (Tacoma, Ranger, Frontier) have 6 foot bed versions. Unfortunately they don't make the traditional pickup single row seat versions anymore, but you can still get a two door model with the little back seats.
- hasmanean 3y agoHalf a ton cargo capacity? That’s like the weight of what, 2 fat people? A ton is 1000 lb, right?
- MarkusWandel 3y agoA ton is 1000kg which is approximately 2200lb. Half a ton never seemed much for the pickup trucks of old, but on the other hand, you could overload them by 1.5-2x and still have a bit of suspension travel left for a careful drive home, e.g. when fetching roof shingles. This was when they were cheap utility vehicles of course.
- GauntletWizard 3y agoIn the US, we have an imperial ton of precisely 2000lb. A metric ton is commonly heard, but always specified.
- stevage 3y agoMetric tonne.
- GauntletWizard 3y agoFor additional confusion's sake, I got it wrong - It's not an "Imperial" ton in the US, but a "Customary" ton. There's also a British "Imperial" ton, and sometime called the "Long ton" (whereas the US Customary unit is also called the "Short ton". The Imperial Ton is 2240 pounds, which if you're dyslexic is the same as the Metric Ton's 2204.6 pounds. Don't forget the metric fucktonne, as well.
- somewhereoutth 3y agoWhich, confusingly, is almost invariably spelt 'metric fuckton'
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
- diogenescynic 3y agoEvery year car models get bigger and heavier. If you compare the original Tacoma to a 2023 Tacoma they look like totally different trucks. A new Tacoma looks bigger than the original Tundra. I think vehicles should be taxed by weight, length, width, and height. The bigger the vehicle the more likely to cause an accident and the heavier the more likely for the accident to be severe.
- fragmede 3y ago> I think vehicles should be taxed by weight, length, width, and height Roughly speaking, they are. Unfortunately, the system didn't quite get the memo, so there are two classes of vehicles based on size here; car, and truck. small trucks, like we are discussing here would fit into the car category. unfortunately, because they fit into the car category, they have to follow the car rules, which they can't, which means they don't exist. all the bigger vehicles fit into the truck category, which has more lax standards about certain things, and which is why we have such big SUVs.
- jiveturkey 3y ago> In other words, a pickup truck! I know you and everyone is salivating over it, mostly due to price, but this is NOT a pickup truck. This is an upscaled UTV. You can already buy similar in the US for offroad purpose (farm) for 1x - 2x the price of the Toyota/hilux. This vehicle does not meet any safety standards whatsoever and is not roadworthy. I doubt it even has the rollover protection of a forklift.
- whelp_24 3y agoForklifts are designed to take alot of top impact force. But i do get your meaning.