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Do Teslas still brick themselves if they can't phone home?
by jjoonathan 3y ago
Do Teslas still brick themselves if they can't phone home?
- justrealist 3y agoReally think about this claim. Have you ever heard of a Tesla driving through a dead zone and bricking itself on a mountain, or in a desert? Or in a disaster zone when cell service was down? If that happened, you would hear about it instantly. It's obviously not true.
- MBCook 3y agoNo, but I have certainly heard stories of Teslas in underground parking garages that couldn’t get a cell signal and therefore couldn’t start. I don’t know what particular conditions cause that. Maybe using phone as a key? And perhaps it was fixed. But it famously happened to Glenn Howerton.
- freerobby 3y agoThis only affected pre-BLE models when the owner did not have the key. It's no worse than when an ICE vehicle owner loses their key; it's just that typically with a Tesla, you can start it from the app in that situation.
- thejazzman 3y agoThey couldn't use the app on their phone that relies on making API calls which then trigger additional network calls from Tesla to the car This is different from Phone Keys that rely on Bluetooth or NFC and don't go over the network
- rossjudson 3y agoI can assure you that Teslas operate and start just fine in areas with no cell coverage.
- jjoonathan 3y agoYes, I have heard of it, but without any attached circumstances. I'm not sure there are any attached circumstances that would make it appropriate, but I wanted to hear out the Tesla fans.
- justrealist 3y agoYou only hear about it in circumstances where people rely on network services (using their phone to unlock their car) rather than using the actual keycard or fob, which are entirely local.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y agoIt's the other way around: they phone home so that they can be bricked, or at the very least have important features disabled at Tesla's whim. What you're suggesting can't work because there isn't cell reception everywhere, but of course that hasn't stopped car rental companies (I think) implementing exactly that with the predictable result of people being stranded in remote locations. The real danger is that someone from Tesla is here reading your comment and putting it on the to do list.
- jjoonathan 3y agoif (days_since_last_phone_home>30) brick(); What I'm really asking is if you are allowed to block the phone home process. Or, in superlative language that I suspect would resonate more with Tesla fans, "in the event of an apocalypse does your Tesla automatically brick itself or does it continue to function?"
- nxpnsv 3y agoI guess your tesla will be the least of your problems in the event of an apocalypse
- hoseja 3y agoLow maintenance vehicle not dependent on oil?
- freerobby 3y agoThere's lots of research here in the Tesla hacker community. The car continues to function. The easiest (not trivial, but easiest) way to test it yourself is to remove the SIM and disable wifi -- the non-network features of the car continue to work indefinitely. There are even some third parties who support early Tesla vehicles, on stock firmwares, in part by fully blocking comms with Tesla.