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It's a matter of taste, of course, but the event does not look incredible to me. https://twitter.com/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544 https://twitter.co

It's a matter of taste, of course, but the event does not look incredible to me. https://twitter.com/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544 https://twitter.com/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544

brianbreslin 3y ago
Didn't they say 2500 people came?
- polygamous_bat 3y ago
  They also said millions of people are trading NFTs every day or something, I don’t remember.
- hanniabu 3y ago
  Almost like the event isn't happening at the time of that recording...
arthur_sav 3y ago
That's because you need the lazers to see how amazing it was
- krisoft 3y ago
  Yeah, clearly the camera had a UV filter. We are missing out on the brilliance :)
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE!
krsdcbl 3y ago
Brilliant and truly innovative stage design, mounting the "do not ever look into those" scan lasers vertically, at head height ... ...
- phkahler 3y ago
  There are regulations on that stuff in some countries. A friend of mine is in lighting and says their company generally avoids lasers due to the hassle of compliance.
  - seanp2k2 3y ago
    In the USA, you need an FDA variance to operate one at events. https://www.proxdirect.com/support/variance https://www.proxdirect.com/support/variance has some info but the most important parts are: - Laser projector must be mounted and have the lowest point on the beam at least 10 fee above the floor and 10 feet horizontally from anywhere a person could go -- this is why many laser shows just do "laser sky" effects that are just projecting wide horizontal lines even though they can do up/down effects as well - beam must be terminated into something non-reflective -- can't shoot it off into the sky - absolutely no scanning the audience -- again, the lowest point of the beam has to be at least 10ft above the floor Related standards: - ANSI Z136.1* ‘Safe Use of Lasers’ (currently available, but general for all laser use) - ANSI Z136.10* (to be published shortly, but specifically covers laser light show safety) https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html has more info including some about how to possibly do audience scanning with special equipment, but you can see from all of these rules why it's a lot easier to just avoid lasers for events and clubs. Pyrotechnics are a lot of red tape too.
    - dekhn 3y ago
      in optical research you typically end your beam into a beam dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_dump IIUC at CERN it's basically a big chunk of graphite that heats up a bunch when you drain your beam into it.
  - echelon 3y ago
    To a broad degree, the industry self-regulates and comes up with its own safety mechanisms, guidelines, hardware and software controls, etc. I used to be a member of ILDA [1], which developed a number of the protocols, serialization formats, and safety measures. They'll certify hardware and operators, and they'll kick out members that engage in crowd scanning. They don't really have much of an enforcement mechanism, though. In the US, the FDA and FAA have regulations on laser displays [2]. You're supposed to apply for variance, but many smaller venues and operators skip this outright. It can be incredibly dangerous if care isn't taken. These multi-watt lasers can easily burn holes into things, with your tissues being among the easiest. These folks were clearly crowd scanning at eye level. [1] https://www.ilda.com https://www.ilda.com [2] https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html
zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
The video pans to the audience near the end. 2500 people sounds right https://x.com/dj_soda_/status/1721510442621861925?s=20 https://x.com/dj_soda_/status/1721510442621861925?s=20
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
I’m surprised they didn’t stuff the room with paid actors. The closest tangible value to NFTs is that they grant membership to an exclusive social club.
- kosolam 3y ago
  Sadly, they don’t need to. The people who actually buy into this are so stup*d that it’s not worth spending a penny more than a lousy eyes blinding “party”
- libraryatnight 3y ago
  They do this with Discords and bots to make interest look high, I can't believe they didn't think to do it with an in person event. Actors must be a bigger pain to get than bots?
  - _jal 3y ago
    Humans who will work for jpgs are hard to find.
- smnrchrds 3y ago
  For what it's worth, the photo in the article itself shows a much larger crowd. The video might be too early or too late into the event.
- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  Like the first episode of Silicon Valley
JeremyNT 3y ago
It's not loading for me, here's a nitter link: https://nitter.cz/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544 https://nitter.cz/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544
philwelch 3y ago
Neither incredible nor credible; what a paradox.
RajT88 3y ago
Given all the wild stuff to do in Hong Kong, this looks pretty middle of the road.
jandrese 3y ago
Imagine going to the event and all you have to look at for the entire show is hideous monkey "art". If this is what the people like then maybe they didn't deserve to have eyes in the first place.

brianbreslin 3y ago

Didn't they say 2500 people came?

polygamous_bat 3y ago
They also said millions of people are trading NFTs every day or something, I don’t remember.
hanniabu 3y ago
Almost like the event isn't happening at the time of that recording...

arthur_sav 3y ago

That's because you need the lazers to see how amazing it was

krisoft 3y ago
Yeah, clearly the camera had a UV filter. We are missing out on the brilliance :)
DonHopkins 3y ago
CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE!

krsdcbl 3y ago

Brilliant and truly innovative stage design, mounting the "do not ever look into those" scan lasers vertically, at head height ... ...

phkahler 3y ago
There are regulations on that stuff in some countries. A friend of mine is in lighting and says their company generally avoids lasers due to the hassle of compliance.
- seanp2k2 3y ago
  In the USA, you need an FDA variance to operate one at events. https://www.proxdirect.com/support/variance https://www.proxdirect.com/support/variance has some info but the most important parts are: - Laser projector must be mounted and have the lowest point on the beam at least 10 fee above the floor and 10 feet horizontally from anywhere a person could go -- this is why many laser shows just do "laser sky" effects that are just projecting wide horizontal lines even though they can do up/down effects as well - beam must be terminated into something non-reflective -- can't shoot it off into the sky - absolutely no scanning the audience -- again, the lowest point of the beam has to be at least 10ft above the floor Related standards: - ANSI Z136.1* ‘Safe Use of Lasers’ (currently available, but general for all laser use) - ANSI Z136.10* (to be published shortly, but specifically covers laser light show safety) https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html has more info including some about how to possibly do audience scanning with special equipment, but you can see from all of these rules why it's a lot easier to just avoid lasers for events and clubs. Pyrotechnics are a lot of red tape too.
  - dekhn 3y ago
    in optical research you typically end your beam into a beam dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_dump IIUC at CERN it's basically a big chunk of graphite that heats up a bunch when you drain your beam into it.
- echelon 3y ago
  To a broad degree, the industry self-regulates and comes up with its own safety mechanisms, guidelines, hardware and software controls, etc. I used to be a member of ILDA [1], which developed a number of the protocols, serialization formats, and safety measures. They'll certify hardware and operators, and they'll kick out members that engage in crowd scanning. They don't really have much of an enforcement mechanism, though. In the US, the FDA and FAA have regulations on laser displays [2]. You're supposed to apply for variance, but many smaller venues and operators skip this outright. It can be incredibly dangerous if care isn't taken. These multi-watt lasers can easily burn holes into things, with your tissues being among the easiest. These folks were clearly crowd scanning at eye level. [1] https://www.ilda.com https://www.ilda.com [2] https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html https://www.lasershowsafety.info/us-laws.html

zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago

The video pans to the audience near the end. 2500 people sounds right https://x.com/dj_soda_/status/1721510442621861925?s=20 https://x.com/dj_soda_/status/1721510442621861925?s=20

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

I’m surprised they didn’t stuff the room with paid actors. The closest tangible value to NFTs is that they grant membership to an exclusive social club.

kosolam 3y ago
Sadly, they don’t need to. The people who actually buy into this are so stup*d that it’s not worth spending a penny more than a lousy eyes blinding “party”
libraryatnight 3y ago
They do this with Discords and bots to make interest look high, I can't believe they didn't think to do it with an in person event. Actors must be a bigger pain to get than bots?
- _jal 3y ago
  Humans who will work for jpgs are hard to find.
smnrchrds 3y ago
For what it's worth, the photo in the article itself shows a much larger crowd. The video might be too early or too late into the event.
RockRobotRock 3y ago
Like the first episode of Silicon Valley

JeremyNT 3y ago

It's not loading for me, here's a nitter link: https://nitter.cz/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544 https://nitter.cz/slandermepls/status/1721352598945677544

philwelch 3y ago

Neither incredible nor credible; what a paradox.

RajT88 3y ago

Given all the wild stuff to do in Hong Kong, this looks pretty middle of the road.

jandrese 3y ago

Imagine going to the event and all you have to look at for the entire show is hideous monkey "art". If this is what the people like then maybe they didn't deserve to have eyes in the first place.