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It hurts the community by promoting proprietary forks. If Element adds a bunch of baller stuff to their version, then that is the best case scenario. On the o
by thomastjeffery 3y ago
It hurts the community by promoting proprietary forks.
If Element adds a bunch of baller stuff to their version, then that is the best case scenario.
On the other hand, if Apple or Microsoft or Google add some really baller stuff, then Element's version has to compete by blindly reproducing that work.
Even worse, if Apple or Microsoft or Google add some mediocre feature, but use that feature to make their users incompatible with Element's version, then Element will have to compete by blindly reproducing a feature that no one actually wants!
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And why should any of us expect the best case scenario? Corporations are paying to monopolize this work. Why would you pay to monopolize something, then never use that monopoly to be anti-competitive? That would be fiscally irresponsible!
- camgunz 3y ago> On the other hand, if Apple or Microsoft or Google add some really baller stuff, then Element's version has to compete by blindly reproducing that work. > Even worse, if Apple or Microsoft or Google add some mediocre feature, but use that feature to make their users incompatible with Element's version, then Element will have to compete by blindly reproducing a feature that no one actually wants! Can't they already do this w/ the Apache version?
- thomastjeffery 3y agoYes. The change made here wasn't from good to bad, it was from bad to bad.
- camgunz 3y agoWell then I don't really understand why you're upset now. Element is doing what everyone says you should do: have a GPL project and sell hosting, support, and proprietary licenses. We can't have the only model be "get donations or be independently wealthy".
- ensignavenger 3y agoI'm not sure who this "everyone" person is, but I have certainly never suggested having a GPL/AGPL project and then selling proprietary licenses. (The other two, very much yes.)
- camgunz 3y agoThis seems like a tedious point. What are you looking for here, a survey or something? Are you in good-faith interested? I think if you were you'd google around a little.
- lmm 3y ago> Can't they already do this w/ the Apache version? They can, but they now have more of a financial incentive to do that, since they're implicitly going to get paid by Apple/Microsoft/Google.
- camgunz 3y agoOnly if the diff against the Apache version is worth money though, which doesn't seem like it will be for a while. I can think of other more likely scenarios: - Apple forks the Apache version - Microsoft contracts some Element developers - Google buys Element - Facebook makes some contributions under the AGPLv3 (okay, maybe this one isn't super likely) In any and all cases, the community still has the AGPL version. I really don't see a downside here, and plus I don't know what companies are supposed to do if not this.