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Exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Why not continue with different colors on the USB plugs, as they sort of did with blue for usb c or was it USB 3? Or. Ah.

by pomian 3y ago

Exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Why not continue with different colors on the USB plugs, as they sort of did with blue for usb c or was it USB 3? Or. Ah. Can't keep up.3.1? (Some motherboards tried, but there weren't cables in same color.)

GloriousKoji 3y ago
You mean USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 aka USB 3.1 Gen 1 aka USB 3.0 aka Super Speed USB? Or do you mean Thunderbolt 3 which supports USB 3.2 Gen 2×1 aka USB 3.1 Gen 2 which was called SuperSpeed+ USB but is now SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps? Or the newest USB4 Gen 4, USB4 Gen 3×2, USB4 Gen 3×1, USB4 Gen 2×2 and USB4 Gen 2×1 which supports Thunderbolt 3? Maybe they could start with the upcoming Thunderbolt 5 which follows the USB4 2.0 spec, not to be confused with USB4 Gen 2(x1/x2). I'm not sure we have enough colors to enumerate the different type of USBs. Going by the naming schemes it seems like there's already not enough numbers. /s
- dwaite 3y ago
  Most of those are market noise because of manufacturers wanting to sell things which aren't under conformance. Thunderbolt 4 and 5 are external conformance marks, because the USB-IF can't be motivated to stop the abuse their own members are causing. For USB-C to C cabling, there is only bandwidth and power capacity. The operational modes supported by the devices you are connecting with that cable is out of your control (except purchasing replacement hardware).
  - quietbritishjim 3y ago
    > Most of those are market noise because of manufacturers wanting to sell things which aren't under conformance. No, most of them are from the USB consortium who gave a new name to all the old standards with each new standard.
    - dwaite 3y ago
      All USB 3 devices are compatible with USB 3.2. They roll up the requirements for everything in there in addition to compatibility across modes. The 3.2 spec does not say you should "now call it USB 3.2 Gen 2x2". The only actual name changes I can think of - SuperSpeed+ became Superspeed 10 Gpbs. - The branding improved around USB4 to combine power and bandwidth capabilities into a combination of name and graphical mark for cable labelling and the like
- crote 3y ago
  All the "Gen" bullshit was explicitly considered to be an internal designation. You can blame tech journalism for bringing that out into the world, because the USB IF never promoted that as a marketing term.

by pomian 3y ago

GloriousKoji 3y ago

You mean USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 aka USB 3.1 Gen 1 aka USB 3.0 aka Super Speed USB? Or do you mean Thunderbolt 3 which supports USB 3.2 Gen 2×1 aka USB 3.1 Gen 2 which was called SuperSpeed+ USB but is now SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps? Or the newest USB4 Gen 4, USB4 Gen 3×2, USB4 Gen 3×1, USB4 Gen 2×2 and USB4 Gen 2×1 which supports Thunderbolt 3? Maybe they could start with the upcoming Thunderbolt 5 which follows the USB4 2.0 spec, not to be confused with USB4 Gen 2(x1/x2). I'm not sure we have enough colors to enumerate the different type of USBs. Going by the naming schemes it seems like there's already not enough numbers. /s

dwaite 3y ago
Most of those are market noise because of manufacturers wanting to sell things which aren't under conformance. Thunderbolt 4 and 5 are external conformance marks, because the USB-IF can't be motivated to stop the abuse their own members are causing. For USB-C to C cabling, there is only bandwidth and power capacity. The operational modes supported by the devices you are connecting with that cable is out of your control (except purchasing replacement hardware).
- quietbritishjim 3y ago
  > Most of those are market noise because of manufacturers wanting to sell things which aren't under conformance. No, most of them are from the USB consortium who gave a new name to all the old standards with each new standard.
  - dwaite 3y ago
    All USB 3 devices are compatible with USB 3.2. They roll up the requirements for everything in there in addition to compatibility across modes. The 3.2 spec does not say you should "now call it USB 3.2 Gen 2x2". The only actual name changes I can think of - SuperSpeed+ became Superspeed 10 Gpbs. - The branding improved around USB4 to combine power and bandwidth capabilities into a combination of name and graphical mark for cable labelling and the like
crote 3y ago
All the "Gen" bullshit was explicitly considered to be an internal designation. You can blame tech journalism for bringing that out into the world, because the USB IF never promoted that as a marketing term.