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They're sitting around doomscrolling because they can't afford to do anything else. I had a medium-range breakfast the other day... waffles coffee and a mimosa

They're sitting around doomscrolling because they can't afford to do anything else. I had a medium-range breakfast the other day... waffles coffee and a mimosa with bacon on the side: $66. Jesus that's more than 4 hours with the local minimum wage before taxes. Realistically the take home from an entire shift -- for a standard breakfast. If I go out to a bar, every drink is $10. If I want to go visit a friend, there's no parking anywhere on a Friday night unless you live miles and miles away from the city center. And people keep getting shot/stabbed on public transit. You can laud it all you want but it feels unsafe for a tall dude in his 30s... a lot of young people aren't going to feel comfortable with the local public transit. The rent is too high, there's nothing to do that's affordable. What the fuck else are young people supposed to do?

mnky9800n 3y ago
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- colechristensen 3y ago
  I'm not talking about my costs or the costs of an entry level developer. I can afford stupidly priced breakfast even if I don't want to spend that much. I'm talking about waitresses, cashiers, shelf restockers, CNAs and whomever else on the bottom scale of pay not being able to afford anything but rent.
nradov 3y ago
Come on. If you're drinking mimosas that's not a "medium range" breakfast. I don't know what kind of hipster cafe you're brunching at but you can eat a lot cheaper at Denny's or the local greasy spoon.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  No, I wasn't eating the cheapest breakfast. I also don't think orange juice with a little bit of cheap sparkling wine should be an unattainable luxury for anyone with a job. I don't think my breakfast was worth a day's labor for a big chunk of the society I live in.
  - nradov 3y ago
    I still don't understand your complaint. There are many cheaper breakfast options available for price sensitive customers. The fact that some restaurants charge ridiculous prices to affluent consumers so that they can signal their social status doesn't tell us anything about economic prospects for youths. Any kind of wine at breakfast has always been considered a luxury reserved for special occasions.
glimshe 3y ago
I dont' want to be judgemental about your choices. They are yours to make. But we can't really complain that life is unaffordable based on what sounds a luxury breakfast with a mimosa/champagne. I've never had a mimosa for breakfast in my life! The same breakfast at a highly-rated, non-chain, brunch place in my large US city would cost around $15+tip without the mimosa. No person is entitled to have others serving them on the cheap; if we want servers and cooks to be well paid, then restaurant food will have to cost a pretty penny. By the way, you can make the very same breakfast at home for less than $10/person, including the mimosa, and barely $5/person without it.
HDThoreaun 3y ago
I'm 25. My friend group mostly consists of highly educated white collar workers. We can afford to do pretty much whatever we want other than quit our jobs. We still mostly spend our time doom scrolling. I think the "they can't afford to do anything else" argument misses how addictive social media is, especially when you grew up with it.
red-iron-pine 3y ago
where the hell are you eating for 66 bucks? hell, i'm in Canada in a big city with high COL and my quick in-and-out breakfast on Saturday was 15 bucks for a brekke and 3 for coffee. even with a tip i'm just over $20 for pancakes, bacon, and a couple of refils of diner coffee. are you paying for the table of 4?

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colechristensen 3y ago
I'm not talking about my costs or the costs of an entry level developer. I can afford stupidly priced breakfast even if I don't want to spend that much. I'm talking about waitresses, cashiers, shelf restockers, CNAs and whomever else on the bottom scale of pay not being able to afford anything but rent.

nradov 3y ago

Come on. If you're drinking mimosas that's not a "medium range" breakfast. I don't know what kind of hipster cafe you're brunching at but you can eat a lot cheaper at Denny's or the local greasy spoon.

colechristensen 3y ago
No, I wasn't eating the cheapest breakfast. I also don't think orange juice with a little bit of cheap sparkling wine should be an unattainable luxury for anyone with a job. I don't think my breakfast was worth a day's labor for a big chunk of the society I live in.
- nradov 3y ago
  I still don't understand your complaint. There are many cheaper breakfast options available for price sensitive customers. The fact that some restaurants charge ridiculous prices to affluent consumers so that they can signal their social status doesn't tell us anything about economic prospects for youths. Any kind of wine at breakfast has always been considered a luxury reserved for special occasions.

glimshe 3y ago

I dont' want to be judgemental about your choices. They are yours to make. But we can't really complain that life is unaffordable based on what sounds a luxury breakfast with a mimosa/champagne. I've never had a mimosa for breakfast in my life! The same breakfast at a highly-rated, non-chain, brunch place in my large US city would cost around $15+tip without the mimosa. No person is entitled to have others serving them on the cheap; if we want servers and cooks to be well paid, then restaurant food will have to cost a pretty penny. By the way, you can make the very same breakfast at home for less than $10/person, including the mimosa, and barely $5/person without it.

HDThoreaun 3y ago

I'm 25. My friend group mostly consists of highly educated white collar workers. We can afford to do pretty much whatever we want other than quit our jobs. We still mostly spend our time doom scrolling. I think the "they can't afford to do anything else" argument misses how addictive social media is, especially when you grew up with it.

red-iron-pine 3y ago

where the hell are you eating for 66 bucks? hell, i'm in Canada in a big city with high COL and my quick in-and-out breakfast on Saturday was 15 bucks for a brekke and 3 for coffee. even with a tip i'm just over $20 for pancakes, bacon, and a couple of refils of diner coffee. are you paying for the table of 4?