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I am always surprised how HN folks fall in hook line and sinker for Democratic talking points from senators FAR removed from any understanding of technology and

I am always surprised how HN folks fall in hook line and sinker for Democratic talking points from senators FAR removed from any understanding of technology and insistent on curbing basic internet freedoms. The previous version of this was the proposal to ban encryption because bad actors can have a private conversation. If you oppose banning encryption but are in support of banning crypto, I would encourage folks to think more deeply about their positions

Yizahi 3y ago
Because HN folks don't want to live in the anarcho-capitalist libertarian dystopia, where whole world "money" is controlled by a few criminals in the offshores, like Zhao, Giancarlo, Sun, Sam, Alex, etc. and by a small mining cartel controlling every transaction consisting mostly of the same people. They don't want to have their transactions blacklisted (like all those "tainted" bitcoins for example) and don't wasn't to be dependent on the centralized exchanges controlled by criminal, on on the decentralized exchanges also controlled by criminals and relying on shitty spaghetti code (just today Uniswap was exploited, but tokenbros don't write about it, interesting right?). They don't want to live a world where every single thing is monetized and rent is extracted forever by a few "early adopters" of said tokens. Sure, there are problems with banks and goverment overreach, but those need to be fixed, not completely replaced with a worse alternative.
- silentsea90 3y ago
  There is no better fix than Bitcoin. Banks and governments will always try to be fiscally irresponsible by removing a gold standard even if it were brought back. Bitcoin is the easiest way to impose rules on the system. Let me know what you think is a better alternative
Reubachi 3y ago
Genuine observation incoming: I am always surprised how HN folks like yourself fall in hook line and sinker for party line politics, even here. It's very hard for any layman to gleam even surface level tech info from the news, politicians etc. because any statements from politicians are by definition influenced by lobbyists. Senator XXXX not understanding (or feigning ignorance) of a tech issue has nothing to do with the color tie the politician is wearing. Democrats and republican parties are for-profit businesses that aren't a part of our constitution, and are lobbied by the tech industry to lie to you.This is all public information. Fun fact I love to reiterate: Neither of the major party presidential candidates in 2016 knew how to use a desktop computer IE; windows, keyboard, mouse. But they both have made millions from investing in tech. But they would not know how to make a cursor move in windows 11. That should be a terrifying signal about our politicians and the effect they have on downstream tech-thought.
- silentsea90 3y ago
  I can't edit my comment but happy to include Republicans too. The Democrats have been more vocal about Bitcoin lately but agreed they're all part of the lobby machine. I have no love for either party :)

Yizahi 3y ago

Because HN folks don't want to live in the anarcho-capitalist libertarian dystopia, where whole world "money" is controlled by a few criminals in the offshores, like Zhao, Giancarlo, Sun, Sam, Alex, etc. and by a small mining cartel controlling every transaction consisting mostly of the same people. They don't want to have their transactions blacklisted (like all those "tainted" bitcoins for example) and don't wasn't to be dependent on the centralized exchanges controlled by criminal, on on the decentralized exchanges also controlled by criminals and relying on shitty spaghetti code (just today Uniswap was exploited, but tokenbros don't write about it, interesting right?). They don't want to live a world where every single thing is monetized and rent is extracted forever by a few "early adopters" of said tokens. Sure, there are problems with banks and goverment overreach, but those need to be fixed, not completely replaced with a worse alternative.

silentsea90 3y ago
There is no better fix than Bitcoin. Banks and governments will always try to be fiscally irresponsible by removing a gold standard even if it were brought back. Bitcoin is the easiest way to impose rules on the system. Let me know what you think is a better alternative

Reubachi 3y ago

Genuine observation incoming: I am always surprised how HN folks like yourself fall in hook line and sinker for party line politics, even here. It's very hard for any layman to gleam even surface level tech info from the news, politicians etc. because any statements from politicians are by definition influenced by lobbyists. Senator XXXX not understanding (or feigning ignorance) of a tech issue has nothing to do with the color tie the politician is wearing. Democrats and republican parties are for-profit businesses that aren't a part of our constitution, and are lobbied by the tech industry to lie to you.This is all public information. Fun fact I love to reiterate: Neither of the major party presidential candidates in 2016 knew how to use a desktop computer IE; windows, keyboard, mouse. But they both have made millions from investing in tech. But they would not know how to make a cursor move in windows 11. That should be a terrifying signal about our politicians and the effect they have on downstream tech-thought.

silentsea90 3y ago
I can't edit my comment but happy to include Republicans too. The Democrats have been more vocal about Bitcoin lately but agreed they're all part of the lobby machine. I have no love for either party :)