I was unclear, I apologize. The 'quick testing' isn't really testing imho. (basically no unit test, small integration tests with the data I could steal from the

I was unclear, I apologize. The 'quick testing' isn't really testing imho. (basically no unit test, small integration tests with the data I could steal from the prod DB). It takes around 20% of the time (or 1/6 in my example taken from my last project). The 80% coverage that include mocking and unit test double that time. I am always extremely clear with my estimates being just that, estimates, and that a complete testing double dev time. Most of the time I'm told 'we don't care right now', but on some projects, management accept longer dev time for more stability and less bugs (we build internal tools).