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This shouldn’t be a surprise, no? When we temporarily free our body from digestion activities, it has time to “house clean”, aka push toxins out, which helps th

by akudha 3y ago

This shouldn’t be a surprise, no? When we temporarily free our body from digestion activities, it has time to “house clean”, aka push toxins out, which helps the body heal.

raincole 3y ago
Typical "pseudoscience speak".
- electrondood 3y ago
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  - InSteady 3y ago
    Calorie restriction (not necessarily fasting) has also shown some remarkable benefits to health and longevity. It seems our bodies can perhaps do some housecleaning, perhaps relearn how to function efficiently, during periods of calorie restriction. The effect of caloric restriction on genetical pathways https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453023000071 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221345302... Impact of Dietary Restriction Regimens on Mitochondria, Heart, and Endothelial Function: A Brief Overview, https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.768383/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.7683... Calorie restriction modulates the transcription of genes related to stress response and longevity in human muscle: The CALERIE study https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.13963 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.13963
  - dang 3y ago
    "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 3y ago
  "Edit out swipes." "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
nradov 3y ago
Which toxins? How are they pushed out? While some toxins are carcinogens, cancer cells don't necessarily contain more toxins than healthy cells.
- akudha 3y ago
  I wasn’t specifically talking about cancer, but in general. Should’ve been more clear. There are many doctors (Dr.Doug Graham for example) who have slowed or cured serious ailments through fasting. I am not a fan of any religion, but every big religion promotes fasting in some form, more for health reasons than religious. When animals fall sick, they are known to voluntarily and intuitively fast.
  - nradov 3y ago
    You didn't answer the question. Which toxins specifically? Dr. Douglas Graham hasn't demonstrated that fasting is an effective cancer treatment. All he has are a few anecdotes which don't establish causality. I suspect a lot of that is around selling his books. Some cancers go into spontaneous remission with no treatment at all. It's possible that fasting could be somewhat effective for certain forms of cancer. But we don't have enough real research on human subjects to make any definitive statements.

by akudha 3y ago

This shouldn’t be a surprise, no? When we temporarily free our body from digestion activities, it has time to “house clean”, aka push toxins out, which helps the body heal.

raincole 3y ago

Typical "pseudoscience speak".

electrondood 3y ago
[flagged]
- InSteady 3y ago
  Calorie restriction (not necessarily fasting) has also shown some remarkable benefits to health and longevity. It seems our bodies can perhaps do some housecleaning, perhaps relearn how to function efficiently, during periods of calorie restriction. The effect of caloric restriction on genetical pathways https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453023000071 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221345302... Impact of Dietary Restriction Regimens on Mitochondria, Heart, and Endothelial Function: A Brief Overview, https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.768383/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.7683... Calorie restriction modulates the transcription of genes related to stress response and longevity in human muscle: The CALERIE study https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.13963 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.13963
- dang 3y ago
  "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 3y ago
"Edit out swipes." "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

nradov 3y ago

Which toxins? How are they pushed out? While some toxins are carcinogens, cancer cells don't necessarily contain more toxins than healthy cells.

akudha 3y ago
I wasn’t specifically talking about cancer, but in general. Should’ve been more clear. There are many doctors (Dr.Doug Graham for example) who have slowed or cured serious ailments through fasting. I am not a fan of any religion, but every big religion promotes fasting in some form, more for health reasons than religious. When animals fall sick, they are known to voluntarily and intuitively fast.
- nradov 3y ago
  You didn't answer the question. Which toxins specifically? Dr. Douglas Graham hasn't demonstrated that fasting is an effective cancer treatment. All he has are a few anecdotes which don't establish causality. I suspect a lot of that is around selling his books. Some cancers go into spontaneous remission with no treatment at all. It's possible that fasting could be somewhat effective for certain forms of cancer. But we don't have enough real research on human subjects to make any definitive statements.