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The world nearly adopted a calendar with 13 months of 28 days
- causi 3y agoHaving months that actually line up with the lunar cycle would be very handy.
- elevaet 3y agoThe one extra day a year would mean the full moon would fall back by 1 day every year relative to the months. Which still would still be pretty handy.
- acjohnson55 3y agoBut they wouldn't, because the lunar cycle isn't 28 days. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_month https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_month
- aardvark179 3y agoThe lunar cycle is not 28 days, or even a whole number of days.
- yieldcrv 3y agoif our orbit around the sun was a perfect circle instead of elliptical we could ignore the orbit completely, or at least I would be willing to, and focus on the moon or just some interval of rotations - day/night cycles
- kalnins 3y agoWinter/Summer cycle is more about the angle of Earths rotational axis and not the distance from the sun.
- osigurdson 3y agoLining up with the solar cycle / journey is more useful though (away from the equator at least). I suspect that is why people landed on a ~365 day calendar.
- edflsafoiewq 3y agoHandy for what?
- em500 3y agoMost civilizations started with a lunar calendar (still used in Chinese and Islamic calendars), because it was much easier to observe the lunar cycle than the solar cycle. The solar calendar was the more useful one for getting good harvests, but technically much more challenging (requiring several tweaks over may centuries get the calibration right).
- camel_gopher 3y agoThat sounds awesome
- KingLancelot 3y ago[dead]
- dclowd9901 3y agoOur dumb calendar. Daylight savings time. Hell, time zones themselves. How many more dumb decisions of the past will we have to continue enduring just for the sake of, well, keeping things the same?
- kyleyeats 3y agoThe months named after 7, 8, 9 and 10 are the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th months.
- satvikpendem 3y agoYou can thank a few Roman imperators for that.
- NullPrefix 3y agoJulius and Augustus
- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoThe people who named those months had years started in March, so it checks out like that legacy variable in that legacy code whose name, type, description in the comment, and actual purpose all have grown to contradict each other.
- thaumasiotes 3y agoOdds are that bothered people in the past more than it bothers people now, making it a somewhat strange example of being forced to live with the stupid decisions of the past.
- msla 3y agoThe guy responsible for that ought to be stabbed.
- 77pt77 3y agoOne of the most relevant countries in the world still uses length measurements based on the foot of the length of their previous despot and they absolutely refuse to change. Nothing will change for a very long time.
- kccqzy 3y ago> A one-day “world holiday” between the final Saturday of the year and Sunday, Jan. 1, would bring the total number of days to 365. I was thinking to myself I liked this idea until I saw this. So there are days that now do not belong to a week. I cannot imagine how much special casing this would require. > “A ‘month’ does not mean anything,” they wrote. “A day means something. A year means something. But a month?” Then by the same logic the week needs to be abolished. Then the problem above wouldn't exist. Now tell that to the religions.
- phire 3y agoOn the plus side, every day of the month would always be the same day. The 1st would always be a Sunday, the 25th would always be a Thursday, etc.
- yardstick 3y agoPeople would hate having their birthdays always on the same day, imagine if it was always a Tuesday. Never a weekend. Sure, celebrations can still be held on weekends, but it’s just not the same. And Fri 13th would die away.
- lostlogin 3y agoI want to know what the bonus day gets called.
- kbenson 3y agoJust call it the bonus day. I'm sure the equivalent of all the leap year babies that get to call themselves bonus babies will thank us.
- speed_spread 3y ago"Great leaders day" because those born that day are destined to rule.
- fragmede 3y ago
- tempestn 3y agoOnly slightly related, but I sometimes wonder how much more advanced we might be if we'd lucked into adopting a base-8 number system (8 fingers, ignoring the thumbs!) instead of base-10. Obvious comp-sci benefits aside, imagine the utility of a metric system based on (no pun intended) base-8. (I know some people say base-12 would be better, as it has lots of integer divisors, but I think the ease of repeated doubling and halving, along with that of binary conversion, makes base-8 a clear win.)
- montefischer 3y agoI'm not sure we would be any more advanced. Anyone to whom binary conversion is relevant has sufficient intelligence to not need the convenience of base 8. For practical needs, convenient representation of repeated doubling and halving are of limited use. Much more relevant to the daily needs of actual people for most of history was the ability to reckon measurements using common objects such as the human body, hence the bewildering diversity of different measurement systems across different peoples, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_weights_and_measures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_weights_and_measures. The base of the number system was a non-factor.
- albert_e 3y ago> I know some people say base-12 would be better, as it has lots of integer divisors IF people with an extra digit on their hand were more common and they were somehow elevated to a priestly / godly class at some point by a dominant tribe ... we would pronbably have had base-12 number system
- frankgrimesjr 3y agoYou can count to 12 on one hand pretty easily without any extra digits: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUZwv9oFbI8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUZwv9oFbI8
- _Qeomash_ 3y agoLet's return to the Baylonians' base-60 system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_cuneiform_numerals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_cuneiform_numerals
- eclipticplane 3y ago_Nearly_ is doing a lot of work in that headline.
- dmarinus 3y agoI'd prefer 10 months, alternating 35 and 36 days. But I guess there had to be more Emperors than 10. (the months are called after Emperors)
- arp242 3y agoThere were no emperors when the Julian calendar was created, during the Roman Republic (even though Caesar was de-facto proto-emperor at this point), and it was based on the Egyptian calendar which had 12 months. The Roman calendar was crap and had to be manually tweaked every year by the Pontifex Maximus (Caesar), and he had been inspired by the Egyptian calendar during his time there with Cleopatra. The only months named after emperors are July and August. I'm not entirely sure about Roman times specifically, but the number 12 was used a lot more in the past (hence words like "dozen") because it's easily divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6, and doesn't have nonsense like 10/3 (well, 12/9, but who does that?) The old Roman calendar had 10 months, which is why "December" comes from Roman "deci" for 10. Herp derp. IIRC they could add an extra "leap month" decided manually, or something. I'd have to look it up how it worked exactly. It was pretty complex and irregular, which is why it was replaced with what we have now. Aside from one minor bugfix it's worked pretty well for about 2,100 years.
- toast0 3y agoThe new roman calendar makes more sense if you start in March. Then the leap day is intercalary, and the numbered months match their positon. Oh well, people want their new years festival in January.
- barry-cotter 3y agoJanus is a god, not an emperor. February is named after a purification ritual, not an emperor. March is named for Mars, a god, not an emperor. April’s etymology is unknown but we can be confident it wasn’t named after an emperor. July is named after Caesar, August after the man once known as Octavian.
- c0pium 3y agoFebruary.
- zzo38computer 3y agoI think Solar Hijri calendar is better, but with Scientific Anno Mundi (instead of Hijrah), and then the local time zone to be based on mean solar time (with solar noon at 12:00 and midnight at 00:00) (using UTC for nonlocal timekeeping).
- anon84873628 3y agoSure is weird that our current solar calendar doesn't start on one of the equinoxes or solstices..
- lostlogin 3y ago> The Jewish day of rest — the Sabbath — falls on every seventh day. With an added blank day inserted each December, the Jewish seven-day cycle (believed to be dictated by God) would no longer align with the days of the week. The Sabbath — a day on which work is prohibited for Jews — would land on a different day of the week (and not necessarily on a weekend) each year. So did mankind keep the universal 7 day week (as god intended it) and in doing so, inadvertently prove it to be a man-made construct?
- willsoon 3y agoWell, you know these things, and like the ban on eating pork (pork doesn't walk in the sand, so you have to buy it from somewhere) and morals in general, are a bit opportunistic. There are 28 days in a lunar month, easy to divide by 2, impossible to divide by 3, so 4 is a convenient number. Nevertheless, God makes the sun and the stars and the moon, which go round every 28 days - the light before the stars, which could be well aligned with Einstein. When it's time to harvest, look at the moon, don't worry about the sun. And perhaps Jehovah of the Seven Armies was El in the beginning. A local deity who was certainly a harvest deity. The problem is difficult. The year doesn't agree with the months and the months don't agree with the days, hence the calendar.
- Horffupolde 3y agoPerhaps it was God’s plan altogether.
- chungy 3y agoThe Jews have been keeping track of 7-day weeks consistently for the past 4 millennia. If anything, it proves that trying to break the cadence gets ugly fast.
- qayxc 3y agoI think you are confusing the Sumerians with the Hebrews here. It was the Sumerians who have the oldest documented reference to a 7-day week, not the jews.
- e63f67dd-065b 3y agoI think the best backwards-compatible calendar that we should adopt is the ISO week date calendar, commonly used in finance: forget months, every day is a week number + a day. So today is 44.7, which means week 44, day 7. This also gets you a nice almost even 13 weeks/quarter, and easy calculations (that report is due w48.5, aka Friday in 4 weeks). We used a worse version of this calendar in Intel and it was great (we callled them work weeks instead and iirc it was not iso8601 aligned). This way, people can play with legacy dates for their birthdays, religious observances, etc but use a sane system at all other times. This already happens with Chinese/Islamic calendars anyways, Chinese new year is a date I have to look up every year, and that’s OK because the calendar is used for literally nothing else outside traditional festivals. Optimise for the common case, after all. Christmas is w52.1 this year, w52.3 the next, etc, just as CNY is 22-jan and 10-feb this and next year (but 1/1 on the Chinese calendar). The only trouble is that some years have 52 weeks and some 53, but such is the price to pay for backwards compatibility.
- rottencupcakes 3y agoJust change to 73 5-day weeks and we’re golden.
- e63f67dd-065b 3y agoNot sure if you’re serious, but the 7-day week as so entrenched that no system that breaks it will see any adoption. Maintaining the 7-day week and the 365 day year is non negotiable for any kind of calendar reform.
- andersa 3y agoWhile we obviously can't change the length of the year in days, is there any actual reason to have a 7 day week beyond "that's what we've always done"?
- hanche 3y agoThat’s really a strong reason, is it not? I have no idea for how long humanity has tracked the seven day week, but suspect it’s been well over 2000 years. That’s a lot of tradition to discard.
- thinkindie 3y agoSomething that is not mentioned in the article but the wikipedia page explains well is how the IFC was handling leap years, which is basically by adding another day that is not part of the week.
- at_a_remove 3y agoAll I am saying is, if we change the earth's rotation and period of revolution, we can fix it all on something sane for once. May as well correct that eccentricity while we're fiddling about. We slow the rotation, give us twenty-five hours in a day. We could all use a little extra. Then we go for four hundred days per year, with the extra near-thirty-five days as a kind of bonus. This gives us a nice hundred thousand hours per year. We just tighten up the second a tad, so we have a hundred thousand of those per day.
- BlueTemplar 3y agoExcept the day is defined as having 24 hours... We could just decide to define it as 25 hours. But we won't, because the reason 24 was picked was because it was easy to divide.
- DiggyJohnson 3y agoI like to fantasize about what life would be like if we had different length weeks. What if we ended up with three or 5 day weeks? Or perhaps 10 days? 7 days feels like it aligns well with the way we think and communicate about time. But maybe that is because it’s the only week length I’ve ever known.
- q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3y agoThe phases of the moon cycle every ~29.5 days [1], so you could use those to make an argument that a ~7-day week is pretty "natural." One could imagine early humans being much more aware of the phase of the moon (whereas I haven't even seen that thing in months), and the 29.5 day cycle naturally splits into two pieces, since it's (new moon) -> (full moon) -> (new moon). And one could also imagine people were pretty aware of when they were halfway between a new moon and a full moon — so now we've naturally arrived at a rough time interval of 29.5/4 = ~7 days. [1]: https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/moon-phases/en/ https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/moon-phases/en/
- HPsquared 3y agoDoesn't that mean a 10-day week (3 weeks per month) is a better fit? Only 0.5 days out instead of 1.5. Edit: though with the sinusiodal variation in the moon, I guess it makes sense to divide it into 4. 3 weeks doesn't make sense for that.
- em500 3y agoWe even have words for the halfway phases between new moon and full moon: first quarter and last quarter. The 7 day week is not directly derived from natural cycles (unlike the month and year lengths), but the moon phases are convenient synchronization points for (approximately) 7 day cycles.
- andreyv 3y agoThe Soviet Union briefly tried 5 and 6 day weeks in the 1930s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_calendar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_calendar
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- Xorakios 3y agoStar Trek resolved this decades ago.
- ajmurmann 3y agoI'd love the positist calendar. That said, even just having 7 months with 30 days and 5 with 31 and either grouping all the months with the same length together would be nice. E.g. jan-May have 31 days, all others 30. Also might be nice if we can fix names so that months match their names again (September being the seventh, October the eighth and so on.). It's insane we lost this because two emperors named some months after themselves 2000 years ago and we are still stuck with it.
- Skeime 3y agoThe emperors are not at fault. They renamed months and didn’t insert new ones. It’s just that the beginning of the year changed from March to January at some point. (Hence the leap day at the end of February as well.)
- timbit42 3y agoI'd like to know more about why it was changed from March to January.
- vulcan01 3y agoCaesar changed it to start on January 1st because the Roman consuls took office then on that day.
- artursapek 3y agoHe also named July after himself!
- ajmurmann 3y agoIt's so weird to me that they assassinated him, but didn't rename the month back. Imagine Trump had renamed June to "Trump", he then gets impeached and 2000 years later the month is still called Trump.
- latchkey 3y agoIn Vietnam, they pay people for 13 months.
- cutler 3y agoThe word "month" descends from the Indo-European "mehns" which also translates as Moon so if we are to be true to the meaning of the word a month of 28 days makes no sense given that the Moon's sidereal period is 27.3 days and its synodic period is 29.5 days. The synodic period makes much more sense as a basis for a calendar as there are 12.3 lunations in a solar year. Man's earliest observations, looking at the night sky, would have been the 12 lunations in the year. We forget this when discussion veers off down the inevitable blind alley of pure numerical reasoning. Nature is showing us the way if we can see it.
- mikelward 3y agoAre you proposing 29.5 day months? How would that work?
- BlueTemplar 3y agoThe year used to start with spring, then counting the moons from then - except in winter, at which point nobody really seemed to care about precision.
- dendrite9 3y agoThe Ethiopian Calendar uses twelve 30 days months, plus a short 13th month to make up the difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar
- globular-toast 3y agoJust start the months between days. Why do they have to align? The month is currently a completely useless measurement of time and only used to tell the approximate time of year. It doesn't matter if the next month starts half way through a day (which, of course, it does).
- eyelidlessness 3y agoLousy Smarch weather!
- guigar 3y agoJan 1st could be the purge day.
- jl6 3y agoImpossible solely due to the intensity of argumentation over whether the first day of the week should be designated Sunday or Monday. I’ll be sticking with good ol’ Gregorian until those heathen Sundayists pipe down.
- somedude895 3y agoThat confuses me so much. Is it an American thing? Do they consider the weekend to be just Saturday? Or Friday and Saturday?
- jl6 3y agoTreating Sunday as the first day of the week is a religious tradition going back thousands of years. However, I know only one god, and his name is ISO 8601.
- timbit42 3y agoWeeks have two ends. The front end, Sunday, and the back end, Saturday.
- roelschroeven 3y agoWhen someone asks you "Do you have any plans for the weekend?", will you answer with what you're going to on saturday, or sunday, or both? For me, "weekend" very much means one unit consisting of saturday and sunday and most often friday night as well. "Weekend" meaning a single day which can be either saturday or sunday seems not to match any use of the word "weekend" I've ever encountered both in personal life and in things like TV shows.
- drexlspivey 3y agoIn some languages Monday literally means second day, Tuesday third day etc
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- willsoon 3y agoAlmost adopted, or almost back to it. I remember reading in Toynbee that the solar calendar was an effect of the hard transition from a matriarchal society to a patriarchal one. I also remember reading Works and Days and how the Boreas impregnated the mares. So yes, sure it was a hard revolution, I think the most important one. 13 was the unlucky number, the Satan number and so on. But 28 days is easy and convenient, and even in the High Middle Ages --- as I said yesterday --- people count months as 28 days.
- firefoxd 3y agoFor fun I created a calendar where a year is 1000 days. A month, 100 days, a week is 10 days. As an aside, i have created the same thing for a clock where a day is 100 hours. I threw it all here https://idiallo.com/blog/100 https://idiallo.com/blog/100
- p1mrx 3y ago"We lose the tracking of seasons, but that's fine we can always look out the window."
- KronisLV 3y agoThis is really cool! I can't imagine that many of the people who are alive now being able to adjust to something like this easily (having to completely change their understanding of what a second, minute, hour etc. is), but I do wonder how well someone learning this system from scratch would fare.
- seb1204 3y agoI also think that a 10 based system should be used somehow but this clock with 0-100 is way too fast and busy. Makes time flow through my fingers.
- firefoxd 3y agoWe can count in tens or in tenets: > When rendering a clock that ticks with this new time, I realize that a second is too fast for a human to count. In fact, it's a little over 10 times faster (11.574x). So I invented a new term: Tenet. A tenet is 10 seconds. It's a human friendly time counter. Not affiliated with Christopher Nolan.
- zuminator 3y agoIn that case couldn't the the tenet and the second just swap so that the word "second" is used to describe something closer to a current second?
- Gare 3y ago
- fragmede 3y agoWhile we're changing systems, could we all just agree to move to military time? In today's global economy, 7 o'clock for an international meeting isn't obviously am or pm. And it's easier to know how close you are to the 24th hour of the day when you're at 2200 vs 10pm.
- adzm 3y agoLet's just use all daytime as an offset of high noon!
- willi59549879 3y agoI haven't seen am/pm outside of the USA. In Europe most people use 24 hour system, at least in text form
- euroderf 3y agoAmericans resist the 24 hour clock for the same reason they resist metrification and any other sane sensible scientific simplification of anything under the sun.
- Kaibeezy 3y agoWeeks? Months? These are conventional constructs, not givens (unless lunar). Days 1 - 365.whatever. Non-prime number days are “business”. Prime number days are “le weekend”. Done.
- Kaibeezy 3y agoSeriously. Our current mess of a calendar has ~104 weekend days, plus several fixed and floating holidays. Replace all that with: - the 72 prime number days - add the days that end in 0, that’s 108, perfect, and gives several 2-day “weekends” - make the 00 days 4-day holidays
- Kaibeezy 3y agoOK, not liked. But why?
- Aardwolf 3y agoMaybe due to not enough weekend days? Perhaps fill the gaps between twin primes, otherwise there are almost no multiple-consecutive-day weekends
- Kaibeezy 3y agoTweaks definitely needed. Perhaps I leaned toward what would be fine for my familiar non-location/time dependent work, already very flexy. Not true for most people, of course, but things change. How’s this? 72 primes plus 50 fillers: (1), 2, 3, 5, 7, (10), 11, 13, 17, 19, (20), 23, 29, (30), 31, 37, (40), 41, 43, 47, (50), 53, 59, (60), 61, 67, (70), 71, 73, 79, (80), 83, 89, (90), 97, (100), 101, (102), 103, 107, 109, (110), 113, (120), 127, (130), 131, 137, (138), 139, (140), 149, (150), 151, 157, (160), 163, 167, (170), 173, 179, (180), 181, (190), 191, 193, 197, 199, (200), (201), (202), (210), 211, (220), 223, 227, 229, (230), 233, 239, (240), 241, (250), 251, 257, (260), 263, 269, (270), 271, 277, (280), 281, 283, (290), 293, (300), (301), (302), (303), 307, (310), 311, 313, 317, (320), (330), 331, (332), (333), 337, (340), 347, 349, (350), (351), (352), 353, 359, (360), (361), (364), (365) UK has 252 working days in 2023. Above is 243. The 41 single “off” days could be treated specially to give people more chance to set appointments or do certain kinds of business, like a more business-y Saturday.
- krmbzds 3y agohttps://archive.is/6uDbH https://archive.is/6uDbH
- dudeinjapan 3y agoI vote for the world to abandon calendars and just live one day at a time.
- stvltvs 3y agoIt's not hyperbole to say that having a shared calendar is a pillar of civilization. Things would quickly fall apart without one.
- crubier 3y agoCould still just say today is day 738,929 CE. Arguably not much harder to remember than 2023-11-05. It's 6 figures instead of 8 for example
- anon84873628 3y agoSure, not harder to remember a single date. But correlating your life events to past/future dates requires too much unintuitive math. What's the next date that we'll celebrate Christmas on? On what date is your 4 week follow-up appointment? You could also switch to decimal periods of 10/100/1000 days, but the whole source of the calendar problem is that humans care about the seasons outside.
- Simon_ORourke 3y agoI use a personal system, more for filenames than anything else, calling files blah_yyyymmdd, so that I can easily sort them with ls and even grep on the filenames if I'm looking for a particular year or month.
- 1letterunixname 3y agoZzzz. ISO 8601. Let me know when you've switched to TAI64 and solved the leapseconds and now leapminutes problem of DUT1.
- 1letterunixname 3y agoAnd the US almost achieved official metrication in the 80's, but the head of NPR (and Kissinger bagman) with another bagman convinced Reagan to stop it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Metric_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Metric_Board
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- ChiMan 3y agoSounds like yet another manifestation of the fake rationality that was so popular in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. We already have a calendar that is universally understood and works perfectly well for any day-tracking problem we throw at it.
- ProllyInfamous 3y agoI recently rented a portable toilet. Upon [intentional?] billing confusion, it was sneakily explained that the rental company uses 28-day "billing periods" for its "monthly rental promotion." Sneaky. What I did (since we had an agreement for "toilet rental, six months") was not pay for the ficticious/additional "month." They can literally eat a turd.
- anon84873628 3y agoWouldn't their 6 periods be shorter than your 6 months? I assume this means that they tried to charge you for the 7th period. But probably also didn't tell you when the 6th period was ending and the unit was expected back. Edit: I wonder if there is a legal definition of "month" and contracts are not allowed to redefine it...
- ProllyInfamous 3y agoCorrect. I prepaid for six months (allegedly, "in full"), only to receive a "7th 28-day month" invoice right around when I needed it gone [clever billing?]. The only penalty is I can no longer rent a portable from that company.
- pcwelder 3y agoprimary cause of the calendar issues seem to me the entanglement of solar cycle and day cycle. Why do we have to make years divide neatly with days? Have separate counters for days and years. There could be separate revolution years and rotation years. Moon years could be a thing.
- climatekid 3y agoSo one of the top reasons not to change was so 0.2% of the world population could follow a rule in a 2000 year old fiction book…
- piloto_ciego 3y agoOk, hear me out. What if for business stuff and basically everything we need to do with scheduling etc. why don’t we use Unix time, and why don’t we let everyone else have whatever religious calendar they want?
- phyzome 3y agoFor the sabbath issue, I'd say make the "extra" day an additional day of rest. That way you never go more than 6 days without one. It matches the spirit of the issue, no? But you would certainly never convince everyone. :-)
- crystaln 3y agoI think you misunderstand the nature of religious conviction.
- phyzome 3y agoWell, it certainly doesn't resonate with me, although I think I understand it well enough for these purposes. What I understand is that some Jews would be fine with it and some would not, and there would be endless argument among rabbis. Jewish religious tradition is amenable to logic and informed debate, even if the logic doesn't make personal sense to me.
- fuoqi 3y agoPersonally, I like the calendar with twelve 30-day months and 6-day weeks, with an additional "new year" holiday 5-6 day quasi-month. You get equal quarters, sane numbering inside "working" months, and leap days stay inside holiday quasi-month.
- ramraj07 3y agoWhy is a 6 day week preferable? Except maybe to better organize gym routines?
- fuoqi 3y agoBecause you get exactly 5 weeks inside a month. We could use six 5-day weeks instead, but I think that having an even number of days in a week is convenient in many cases (gym routines is one such example). Also, with 6-day weeks, the quasi-month will not be longer than a week, so "holiday month's Monday/Sunday" will be unambiguous.
- mlok 3y agoWhat would the 2-days weekend become in a 6-days week ?
- fuoqi 3y agoIf an economy is advanced enough to allow it, it would stay 2-day weekend with 4 working days. I think it would be more balanced than the 4-day workweek which slowly gets traction today.
- bozhark 3y agoMy dream, we will get there
- didgetmaster 3y agoThe problem would be solved if you could just change the orbit of the Earth around the sun so that it took exactly 364 days to orbit instead of 365 and some change. Right? That would mean moving the Earth slightly closer to the sun. I wonder what side effects that would create (assuming of course, you could actually find a way to do it - not exactly in the realm of possibility).
- BenFranklin100 3y agoAll in the name of a more simple calendar
- bwech 3y agoWe could potentially do it over the span of millions of years. Not without risk though. And generally we would want to move further from the sun when it reaches a later stage in its life and starts to expand. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Earth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Earth
- PullJosh 3y agoOr, if that’s too hard, leave the orbit the same but slow the spin down a little so each day is longer. A 0.35% decrease in spin speed seems fine right?
- ninkendo 3y agoAccording to Wikipedia [0], 70 million years ago the earth rotated about 7 more times per year than it did today, meaning we just need to wait about another 10 million years and it'll happen on its own. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΔT_(timekeeping)#Geological_evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΔT_(timekeeping)#Geological_ev...
- bhandziuk 3y agoIf we use enough tidal energy we can certainly accomplish this!
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- westurner 3y agoKnuckle mnemonic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckle_mnemonic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckle_mnemonic
- tobinfricke 3y ago> By 1928, Eastman had already implemented the IFC internally at Kodak and was spending his own money to persuade the rest of the world to follow suit. Soon 140 American companies joined him, maintaining a 13-month calendar for their businesses and wagering that calendar reform would continue to gain traction. I've seen this repeated before, but never with any details or attribution. Did Kodak really use this 13 month calendar? What about the 140 other companies? If it was really so popular, I would have expected it to leave more of a mark.
- tobinfricke 3y agoFor year-over-year comparisons, why not just use week numbers? Or even lump week numbers into ranges. First 4 weeks, second 4 weeks, etc. You don't have to invent an entirely new calendar.
- KolenCh 3y agoWhen I read the title my first thought was that it was saying the Chinese calendar is almost adapted by the world. But on second thought it can’t be right as 28 is wrong here.
- pallas_athena 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
- dm319 3y agoIf we redo the calendar then can we rename the months so they make sense. Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec need to be the 7/8/9/10. Also, can we just switch to the duodecimal system. 12 is a much better base as divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6. Divisions into 12 are already fairly natural - hours, months, inches in feet, dozens...
- vinberdon 3y agoLousy Smarch weather....
- rmnwski 3y agoApart from a better calendar and one universal time zone, time should be stated in swatch internet time / French revolutionary time. One day has 1000 beats each 85.4s long. Perfect! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
- RyanAdamas 3y agoPerhaps history keeps repeating itself because we keep using cyclical tracking methods for time.
- westcort 3y agoPersonally, I always thought 19 months, 19 days each, for 361 days and take the last four or five off (we do anyway) made the most sense. Then I learned the Baha’i calendar uses this system. One variation I would support is a 19 day week, with 14 days on then 5 days off. That’s 266 working days per year, about the same as our present 260. Alternatively, 10 days on 9 days off is 190 working days, basically instituting 2 months of vacation, which our friends in Europe already enjoy.
- westcort 3y agoHear me out: Five days on, two days off, five days on, seven days off. Repeat 19 times per year. At the end of the year, everyone gets 11 days off!