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PG reflects on children killed in Israel and Gaza

19 points by bluefishinit 3y ago

bluefishinit 3y ago
Seems to me this industry has a serious Zionism problem, those replies are unbelievable.
- lusus_naturae 3y ago
  If your leaders and religious figures keep asserting that the existence of the other is an existential threat, then this is what you'd expect. I don't think this is a problem that's unique to any particular race, religion or culture. Political and religious figures have been using differences from the conception of society to remain in power, it's an easy formula.
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        throwawaysleep 3y ago
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        kmos17 3y ago
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  - seo-speedwagon 3y ago
    Yeah, that’s all true but it seems like the question is more along the lines of “does tech have a Zionism problem?” To which I think the answer is “yes” in that there are zionists in tech for sure. Whether they’re disproportionately prevalent vs the general population I’m not sure. The West definitely has a Zionism problem in that media and elected officials are overwhelmingly Zionist and have been for generations at this point.
- weatherlite 3y ago
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tpmx 3y ago
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Bostonian 3y ago
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- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Will Israel not simply go back to Palestinian apartheid and illegal settlements ignoring international pressure, even if Hamas were to cease to exist tomorrow? This, of course, does not justify terrorism. > Otherwise Israel has the right to destroy an organization waging war against it Israel’s rights (or rather, the unilateral action they take) are up for debate, and only powered by the US and allies continuing to support them despite the transgressions mentioned above. Coexistence should not be this hard, but ideology is stubborn. All over a bunch of ancient stories.
  - throwawaysleep 3y ago
    Israel left the Gaza strip and spent a fortune removing the settlements. They were rewarded with ever more war. The key lesson is that the top priority of the Palestinians when given a state is to immediately vote for and focus on killing Jews.
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      How about “no killing” and “share power and cohabit peacefully or you’re both kicked out”? That seems fair and reasonable. I would agree an adult nation state needs to be in charge of this. Otherwise, this conflict persists for eternity, as someone will always have incentive to dissuade peace. It’s terrible (“madness” said accurately lately by certain nation states) and everyone local has shown to be unable or unwilling to have accountable authority or power.
- throwawaysleep 3y ago
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  - clipsy 3y ago
    Evacuate to where?
armchairthought 3y ago
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19 points by bluefishinit 3y ago

bluefishinit 3y ago

Seems to me this industry has a serious Zionism problem, those replies are unbelievable.

lusus_naturae 3y ago
If your leaders and religious figures keep asserting that the existence of the other is an existential threat, then this is what you'd expect. I don't think this is a problem that's unique to any particular race, religion or culture. Political and religious figures have been using differences from the conception of society to remain in power, it's an easy formula.
- bluefishinit 3y ago
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  - tpmx 3y ago
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    - bluefishinit 3y ago
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      - deleted 3y ago
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      - throwawaysleep 3y ago
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      - kmos17 3y ago
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  - pinewurst 3y ago
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- seo-speedwagon 3y ago
  Yeah, that’s all true but it seems like the question is more along the lines of “does tech have a Zionism problem?” To which I think the answer is “yes” in that there are zionists in tech for sure. Whether they’re disproportionately prevalent vs the general population I’m not sure. The West definitely has a Zionism problem in that media and elected officials are overwhelmingly Zionist and have been for generations at this point.
weatherlite 3y ago
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tpmx 3y ago

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Bostonian 3y ago

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toomuchtodo 3y ago
Will Israel not simply go back to Palestinian apartheid and illegal settlements ignoring international pressure, even if Hamas were to cease to exist tomorrow? This, of course, does not justify terrorism. > Otherwise Israel has the right to destroy an organization waging war against it Israel’s rights (or rather, the unilateral action they take) are up for debate, and only powered by the US and allies continuing to support them despite the transgressions mentioned above. Coexistence should not be this hard, but ideology is stubborn. All over a bunch of ancient stories.
- throwawaysleep 3y ago
  Israel left the Gaza strip and spent a fortune removing the settlements. They were rewarded with ever more war. The key lesson is that the top priority of the Palestinians when given a state is to immediately vote for and focus on killing Jews.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    How about “no killing” and “share power and cohabit peacefully or you’re both kicked out”? That seems fair and reasonable. I would agree an adult nation state needs to be in charge of this. Otherwise, this conflict persists for eternity, as someone will always have incentive to dissuade peace. It’s terrible (“madness” said accurately lately by certain nation states) and everyone local has shown to be unable or unwilling to have accountable authority or power.
throwawaysleep 3y ago
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- clipsy 3y ago
  Evacuate to where?

armchairthought 3y ago

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