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Should be "go android". All iOS browsers sadly are just WebView shells.

riedel 3y ago
And sadly all android webviews are Chrome (and with a lot of additional effort at least Chromium based). Mozilla should release a webview and fight for signature inclusion.
- ris58h 3y ago
  I'm not an Android expert but when I click a link in an email it opens the preview via Firefox (I've set it as the default browser). Is it another thing?
  - Daedren 3y ago
    That's a feature called Custom Tabs. It's essentially a small barebones Firefox app and yes it is using Gecko. The parent poster is talking about system webviews. They're used when any app wants to show web content embedded inside their apps, and yeah there's no Firefox option for those.
    - d3w4s9 3y ago
      For security reasons I'm happy to accept that compromise. Google is doing a good job of keeping WebView updated.
    - yunohn 3y ago
      Android allows for Gecko web views (1) and Firefox Custom Tabs. It’s just that the Chrome Webview is available by default and does not need to be embedded, thus reducing app size and load times. (1) https://mozilla.github.io/geckoview/ https://mozilla.github.io/geckoview/
    - ElectricalUnion 3y ago
      Not strictly related to the current thread but I used apps (now uninstalled for that specific reason) that insisted on trying to open Chrome's Custom Tabs and just crashed if that wasn't possible; never found a way to redirect those that didn't require rooting.
      - chenxiaolong 3y ago
        LinkSheet [1] can do that. It's a small app that you set as the default browser and shows a prompt when you open a link to allow you to choose what to do (eg. open in browser, open in app, share link, remove tracking URL parameters, etc.). If you don't care about any of the extra functionality, you can configure it to always open your preferred browser and convert Custom Tabs intents to regular ones. No root access required. [1] https://github.com/1fexd/LinkSheet https://github.com/1fexd/LinkSheet
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rschiavone 3y ago
Not for long, I hope. "Apple Considering Dropping Requirement for iPhone Web Browsers to Use WebKit" https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/14/apple-considering-non-webkit-iphone-browsers/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/14/apple-considering-non-w...
- the_duke 3y ago
  Well, they will be forced to soon by new EU regulation. (DSA)
- szundi 3y ago
  Oh yeah, times come when I can have a full chrome/ium for every app I install!
- ajdude 3y ago
  Chrome is finally about to get that last 20%
- creatonez 3y ago
  What's interesting about this is that Mozilla and Google are both primed and ready to quickly release Gecko/Blink browsers as soon as EU regulation bites Apple on this issue -- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/google-and-mozilla-are-working-on-ios-browsers-that-break-current-app-store-rules/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/google-and-mozilla-a...
gruez 3y ago
That might be so but Orion Browser (by kagi) manages to support extensions.

And sadly all android webviews are Chrome (and with a lot of additional effort at least Chromium based). Mozilla should release a webview and fight for signature inclusion.

ris58h 3y ago
I'm not an Android expert but when I click a link in an email it opens the preview via Firefox (I've set it as the default browser). Is it another thing?
- Daedren 3y ago
  That's a feature called Custom Tabs. It's essentially a small barebones Firefox app and yes it is using Gecko. The parent poster is talking about system webviews. They're used when any app wants to show web content embedded inside their apps, and yeah there's no Firefox option for those.
  - d3w4s9 3y ago
    For security reasons I'm happy to accept that compromise. Google is doing a good job of keeping WebView updated.
  - yunohn 3y ago
    Android allows for Gecko web views (1) and Firefox Custom Tabs. It’s just that the Chrome Webview is available by default and does not need to be embedded, thus reducing app size and load times. (1) https://mozilla.github.io/geckoview/ https://mozilla.github.io/geckoview/
  - ElectricalUnion 3y ago
    Not strictly related to the current thread but I used apps (now uninstalled for that specific reason) that insisted on trying to open Chrome's Custom Tabs and just crashed if that wasn't possible; never found a way to redirect those that didn't require rooting.
    - chenxiaolong 3y ago
      LinkSheet [1] can do that. It's a small app that you set as the default browser and shows a prompt when you open a link to allow you to choose what to do (eg. open in browser, open in app, share link, remove tracking URL parameters, etc.). If you don't care about any of the extra functionality, you can configure it to always open your preferred browser and convert Custom Tabs intents to regular ones. No root access required. [1] https://github.com/1fexd/LinkSheet https://github.com/1fexd/LinkSheet
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rschiavone 3y ago

Not for long, I hope. "Apple Considering Dropping Requirement for iPhone Web Browsers to Use WebKit" https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/14/apple-considering-non-webkit-iphone-browsers/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/14/apple-considering-non-w...

the_duke 3y ago
Well, they will be forced to soon by new EU regulation. (DSA)
szundi 3y ago
Oh yeah, times come when I can have a full chrome/ium for every app I install!
ajdude 3y ago
Chrome is finally about to get that last 20%
creatonez 3y ago
What's interesting about this is that Mozilla and Google are both primed and ready to quickly release Gecko/Blink browsers as soon as EU regulation bites Apple on this issue -- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/google-and-mozilla-are-working-on-ios-browsers-that-break-current-app-store-rules/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/google-and-mozilla-a...

gruez 3y ago

That might be so but Orion Browser (by kagi) manages to support extensions.