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You don’t want these devices in the cargo hold. As your ability to handle any fire issue there is massively impaired by the fact that you cannot access them the
by pintxo 3y ago
You don’t want these devices in the cargo hold. As your ability to handle any fire issue there is massively impaired by the fact that you cannot access them there easily. While in the cabin, issues are mostly identified early and they have working processes to handle them.
- RockRobotRock 3y agoYeah but they have active fire detection and suppression systems in the cargo hold.
- mschuster91 3y agoFire detection yes, but conventional suppression systems are useless against lithium battery fires. In the case of a lithium fire in the cargo hold, all the pilots can do is emergency land ASAP and pray that the fire won't damage too much of the control wiring until then.
- RockRobotRock 3y agoInteresting, I didn't know that. I found this fire suppression company which makes a better suppressant than Halon and is specifically targeted for Li-ion fires: https://cellblockfcs.com/cellblockex/ https://cellblockfcs.com/cellblockex/
- xattt 3y agoIt may be a great approach for new build. It’s not doing anything for the thousands of planes in the air with a suppressant-specific system in place.
- mschuster91 3y agoYeah but you gotta place your li-ion batteries inside the container of the device/battery and that container has to be rugged as well to withstand the intense heat and not release enough of that heat outside to ignite nearby other cargo. That stuff definitely has its place for commercial shippers of li-ion stuff, but it's useless for normal traveller bags.
- amelius 3y agoJust depressurize the cargo area.
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- javagram 3y agoLithium ion battery fires are self-oxidizing, according to google search results.
- amelius 3y agoSee my answer to ben-schaaf's comment. It would destroy the suitcase of the owner of the phone, perhaps.
- wkat4242 3y agoIt can't be depressurized independently from the passenger area. It's part of the same pressure vessel.
- ben-schaaf 3y agoBattery fires like lithium-ion are self-oxidising.
- amelius 3y agoYes, so it will get very hot locally. However, the rest of the stuff in cargo will not catch fire, which is the main point.