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The senate passed a law to move to DST, the house did not. Many states want to change to DST permanently. Some details at https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/

by rnk 3y ago

The senate passed a law to move to DST, the house did not. Many states want to change to DST permanently. Some details at https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/us-permanent-dst.html https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/us-permanent-dst.html.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Washington state has approved moving to DST permanently, but we are waiting for congressional authorization. Our 4 months of darkness after 4 PM starts next week.
- votepaunchy 3y ago
  The Secretary of Transportation can also approve a change in time zone [0], and any state can switch to year round Standard Time [1]. Your state representatives are being disingenuous. [0] https://www.transportation.gov/regulations/procedure-moving-area-one-time-zone-another https://www.transportation.gov/regulations/procedure-moving-... [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/260a https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/260a
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Read more carefully. We don’t need approval to switch to standard time, but no one but Arizona wants to switch to standard time! We do need congressional approval to switch to permanent daylight savings times. Our representatives aren’t being disingenuous.
    - rnk 3y ago
      Yes, we need to move to dst in the north but other places would prefer it too. If the rest of the continental us didn't move together, I don't think it would happen. standard time (not daylight savings time) is what we want to get out of. The problem for northern states is the sun goes down too early. Right now, Minneapolis sun up at 7am, down at 4:54. Seattle 7, down 4:44, chicago 6:28 to 4:38. https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/minneapolis https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/minneapolis is one way to visualize (there's a graph at the bottom showing the dst/st change). A few days ago in the northern latitudes it was sun up at 7:50p, down at 6pm. Now it's an hour earlier. It's much nicer to push sundown an hour later.
  - eyelidlessness 3y ago
    So, to achieve the same practical end (to observe only the one of two time periods it currently observes which it cannot unilaterally choose), Washington state would instead propose changing its entire geographic time zone to Mountain Time, seeking approval from the Secretary of Transportation instead of Congress, on the bases laid out in that link, and then upon that entirely other approval which may or may not occur, unilaterally switch to Mountain Standard Time rather than Pacific Daylight Time… and it’s WA representatives who are being disingenuous? On the assumption that the other approval would be more forthcoming?

by rnk 3y ago

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

Washington state has approved moving to DST permanently, but we are waiting for congressional authorization. Our 4 months of darkness after 4 PM starts next week.

votepaunchy 3y ago
The Secretary of Transportation can also approve a change in time zone [0], and any state can switch to year round Standard Time [1]. Your state representatives are being disingenuous. [0] https://www.transportation.gov/regulations/procedure-moving-area-one-time-zone-another https://www.transportation.gov/regulations/procedure-moving-... [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/260a https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/260a
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Read more carefully. We don’t need approval to switch to standard time, but no one but Arizona wants to switch to standard time! We do need congressional approval to switch to permanent daylight savings times. Our representatives aren’t being disingenuous.
  - rnk 3y ago
    Yes, we need to move to dst in the north but other places would prefer it too. If the rest of the continental us didn't move together, I don't think it would happen. standard time (not daylight savings time) is what we want to get out of. The problem for northern states is the sun goes down too early. Right now, Minneapolis sun up at 7am, down at 4:54. Seattle 7, down 4:44, chicago 6:28 to 4:38. https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/minneapolis https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/minneapolis is one way to visualize (there's a graph at the bottom showing the dst/st change). A few days ago in the northern latitudes it was sun up at 7:50p, down at 6pm. Now it's an hour earlier. It's much nicer to push sundown an hour later.
- eyelidlessness 3y ago
  So, to achieve the same practical end (to observe only the one of two time periods it currently observes which it cannot unilaterally choose), Washington state would instead propose changing its entire geographic time zone to Mountain Time, seeking approval from the Secretary of Transportation instead of Congress, on the bases laid out in that link, and then upon that entirely other approval which may or may not occur, unilaterally switch to Mountain Standard Time rather than Pacific Daylight Time… and it’s WA representatives who are being disingenuous? On the assumption that the other approval would be more forthcoming?