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If you're living in a terraced house with a front garden that is too small to put a drive in then you are probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can supp

by willyt 3y ago

If you're living in a terraced house with a front garden that is too small to put a drive in then you are probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can support frequent public transport. In cities like London, Newcastle, Liverpool or Glasgow that's already going to be a metro/subway/tube line. In one of the smaller neglected northern towns that could be a tram-train than can travel on street but achieve 80mph on a grade separated right of way to take you into the big city or to the major transport interchange or wherever. Just rent a car when you go on holiday, walk the kids to primary school and pick up your shopping on the way back from the station or get it delivered like it used to be in the old days. If everyone in that neighbourhood gets an electric car they are probably going to have to dig up all the streets to replace the ancient power cables to support the on-street charging which would cause even more chaos than putting in a tram. It would help solve the obesity epidemic with everyone walking a bit more and save the vehicles for people that need them like people who are mobility impaired, builders, etc.

sandworm101 3y ago
>> probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can support frequent public transport. Not always a thing. Plenty of "dense" neighbourhoods have less-than-ideal transport systems. Few of even the most dense run 24/7 bus/train service. Not everyone works a 9-5 job near a bus station. Im in a dense area, in an apparment building beside the largest hospital. Bus service doesn't start until 6am, meaning it isnt an option for my work. Nearest passenger train is hundreds of miles away.
michaelt 3y ago
> If you're living in a terraced house with a front garden that is too small to put a drive in then you are probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can support frequent public transport. Pick a random terraced road in Bristol [1] or Birmingham [2] or London [3] or Norwich [4] and you'll find terraced house residents are not yet living without cars. If our nation's goals require such people to live without cars, I would say we're a long way off - and we're not particularly moving in that direction either. Hell, the current government's plan for the next election is essentially the opposite. [1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/JUVD3xy4qRuP78VP8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/JUVD3xy4qRuP78VP8 [2] https://maps.app.goo.gl/CGfDGEibG3zQij8MA https://maps.app.goo.gl/CGfDGEibG3zQij8MA [3] https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXZYFuuQC3aQiam56 https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXZYFuuQC3aQiam56 [4] https://maps.app.goo.gl/srs27pyGuzobhp1V9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/srs27pyGuzobhp1V9
nradov 3y ago
This notion of "just rent a car" is so stupid and unrealistic. Most rental cars are kind of crap unless you spend a lot, which quickly eats up any savings. The agencies don't reliably honor reservations and don't always have the specific model that you wanted. Getting to and from the rental car agency is a huge hassle and time suck, and then you have to drive it back to your house to pick up the rest of the family and luggage. Who has time for that?

by willyt 3y ago

sandworm101 3y ago

>> probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can support frequent public transport. Not always a thing. Plenty of "dense" neighbourhoods have less-than-ideal transport systems. Few of even the most dense run 24/7 bus/train service. Not everyone works a 9-5 job near a bus station. Im in a dense area, in an apparment building beside the largest hospital. Bus service doesn't start until 6am, meaning it isnt an option for my work. Nearest passenger train is hundreds of miles away.

michaelt 3y ago

> If you're living in a terraced house with a front garden that is too small to put a drive in then you are probably living in a dense neighbourhood that can support frequent public transport. Pick a random terraced road in Bristol [1] or Birmingham [2] or London [3] or Norwich [4] and you'll find terraced house residents are not yet living without cars. If our nation's goals require such people to live without cars, I would say we're a long way off - and we're not particularly moving in that direction either. Hell, the current government's plan for the next election is essentially the opposite. [1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/JUVD3xy4qRuP78VP8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/JUVD3xy4qRuP78VP8 [2] https://maps.app.goo.gl/CGfDGEibG3zQij8MA https://maps.app.goo.gl/CGfDGEibG3zQij8MA [3] https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXZYFuuQC3aQiam56 https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXZYFuuQC3aQiam56 [4] https://maps.app.goo.gl/srs27pyGuzobhp1V9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/srs27pyGuzobhp1V9

nradov 3y ago

This notion of "just rent a car" is so stupid and unrealistic. Most rental cars are kind of crap unless you spend a lot, which quickly eats up any savings. The agencies don't reliably honor reservations and don't always have the specific model that you wanted. Getting to and from the rental car agency is a huge hassle and time suck, and then you have to drive it back to your house to pick up the rest of the family and luggage. Who has time for that?