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> I can't park at home. So I'd have to go somewhere just for charging and hang around while it's doing it. If you have no parking at home, you can't have a ca

> I can't park at home. So I'd have to go somewhere just for charging and hang around while it's doing it. If you have no parking at home, you can't have a car. Bringing EV into your situation is irrelevant.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
In the USA, it is allowed and even common for people without at home parking to own cars and park them on the street. In China, it technically isn’t allowed (like Japan you have to have proof of parking spot before you can buy a car), but the rule is easily gamed and lots of people park on the street (or in many cases, the right lane of a two lane one way road without street parking, they only get ticketed once a year so it’s ok - see “wild parking”). It’s a bit crazy, maybe other cities aren’t as bad as Beijing.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  I _really_ love the Japanese model of having to prove you can park your car out of the way combined with the enforced Kei car model. It lets them keep cities compact and mostly walkable.
BeetleB 3y ago
People do live in apartment complexes with parking. It's just that you don't have a reserved spot and they probably don't have EV charging.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  My "apartment complex" doesn't have any parking, the building is from the late 1800s :) There's public car parks around but they are prohibitively expensive as it's an old city center.
  - BeetleB 3y ago
    I didn't say all complexes have them. I said plenty exist. They're usually not in the building but outside.
wkat4242 3y ago
Well I could of course park elsewhere. Like seanmcdirmid said, I could park on the street though in this area (and residents qualify for permits. But it's a nightmare to find a spot. And one with charging is simply impossible. I could also rent a spot somewhere. But this becomes a special issue with EVs, because I regularly would have to go and drive it somewhere to charge it. Also those rented spaces are crazy expensive.
rsynnott 3y ago
I don't have parking, but I could get a permit to park on the road I live on for, I think, about 100 eur a year (if you don't live there it's 4eur/hour). In less central areas, on-street parking is often completely uncontrolled. This is a pretty common setup in many places.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

In the USA, it is allowed and even common for people without at home parking to own cars and park them on the street. In China, it technically isn’t allowed (like Japan you have to have proof of parking spot before you can buy a car), but the rule is easily gamed and lots of people park on the street (or in many cases, the right lane of a two lane one way road without street parking, they only get ticketed once a year so it’s ok - see “wild parking”). It’s a bit crazy, maybe other cities aren’t as bad as Beijing.

theshrike79 3y ago
I _really_ love the Japanese model of having to prove you can park your car out of the way combined with the enforced Kei car model. It lets them keep cities compact and mostly walkable.

BeetleB 3y ago

People do live in apartment complexes with parking. It's just that you don't have a reserved spot and they probably don't have EV charging.

wkat4242 3y ago
My "apartment complex" doesn't have any parking, the building is from the late 1800s :) There's public car parks around but they are prohibitively expensive as it's an old city center.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  I didn't say all complexes have them. I said plenty exist. They're usually not in the building but outside.

wkat4242 3y ago

Well I could of course park elsewhere. Like seanmcdirmid said, I could park on the street though in this area (and residents qualify for permits. But it's a nightmare to find a spot. And one with charging is simply impossible. I could also rent a spot somewhere. But this becomes a special issue with EVs, because I regularly would have to go and drive it somewhere to charge it. Also those rented spaces are crazy expensive.

rsynnott 3y ago

I don't have parking, but I could get a permit to park on the road I live on for, I think, about 100 eur a year (if you don't live there it's 4eur/hour). In less central areas, on-street parking is often completely uncontrolled. This is a pretty common setup in many places.