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Versus decades of prison? Is there not a house next to Edward Snowden? Why stay?
by chasil 3y ago
Versus decades of prison?
Is there not a house next to Edward Snowden?
Why stay?
- fallingknife 3y agoRussia has a place for people who leak embarrassing secrets of the US. A thief like SBF has no value to them.
- duxup 3y agoOh they maybe are worth exactly the amount they bring… and someone will want it.
- klyrs 3y agoHe may be safer inside than out in countries without extradition treaties. He burnt a lot of money that wasn't his to burn.
- chasil 3y agoThat makes a lot of sense.
- Scoundreller 3y agoExtradition treaties aren’t the only thing to watch out for. Plenty of countries without them will happily fall over and hand someone wanted over. Extradition treaty mainly just lets some foreign country start a process in local courts to hand someone over. You need to butter up a place with adversarial relations. Or go somewhere with ironclad constitutional protections against extradition. And even then, e.g. France only has those for its own citizens and may still prosecute you locally for your crimes abroad.
- salamanderss 3y agoWhy would they need go to a country subject to treaties. Unrecognized territories like transnistria (weev!),rojava,Somaliland,Ambazonia, western Sahara, Palestine (before invasion), fractions of Myanmar, idlib, rebel held congo fractions, etc. Basically no diplomatic relations and they will likely not eject someone seen locally as supporting their cause. Its a big world out there and a shockingly large portion is free of recognized government control. In such places you pretty much live by your own bootstraps rather than what some far away western country says, at least on the individual level. What really really shocks me though is that SBF didn't just jump on a yacht out right after the failure as he easily could have done. If he had sailed to the right part of Latam or West Africa he'd have a decent chance at not getting caught.
- Scoundreller 3y agoIn any unrecognized territory, you risk becoming a pawn in exchange for a prisoner release. And pray that the unrecognized territory continues to exist as is.
- salamanderss 3y agoThere's no riskless path remaining after you've defrauded billions of dollars. Iirc the white girl who bombed the subway in london is thought to be still hiding in such a territory like two decades later.
- janosdebugs 3y agoHe doesn't speak the language, had a highly recognizable face and is perceived to have money. Sounds like a recipe for a bad time in the rougher places of the world.
- salamanderss 3y agoNot sure I'd want to live in Ambazonia but they speak English and would likely not have many that recognize his face. It also would have been easily accessible by yacht transatlantic from the Bahamas into a difficult to patrol estuary. But this is all pure fantasy, I understand why he didn't do that.
- duxup 3y agoI’m not sure Russia there’s much protection in Russia if you don’t serve a purpose…
- jowea 3y agoThe right place to go in this case is probably the sort of place that will take your money and not extradite you. I heard the United Arab Emirates helps. Maybe Hong-Kong?
- duxup 3y agoYeah I wonder what a good place would be. If you’re known I gotta think there aren’t many places.
- kleton 3y agoIn his case, Israel would have been the best bet.
- nolongerthere 3y agoIn most cases this is true, Israel rarely extradites jews and generally the US doesn't try too hard in forcing exceptions (like tying aid to extradition of accused), but this was way too high profile, and SBFs politics in general don't align with Israel's, so I could see Israel not working out for him.