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Oh no, not another "join our discord to use it".

by nunodonato 3y ago

andrewstuart 3y ago
Its a weird choice of UI. Why do companies do this? Is it a development shortcut or something?
- owenpalmer 3y ago
  > Its a weird choice of UI. Yeah for sure. I guess one advantage is that since it's already in a chat, people can react and talk about it as it's happening.
- choppaface 3y ago
  Both a dev shortcut as well as a stickiness play. Adding a Discord server is like installing a smartphone app.
- alanbernstein 3y ago
  Probably. If your small team is competent at ML model development, why spend time building a web app? One time I participated in a small local event that required submitting photos via tagged Instagram posts. I was annoyed at that, until I realized it completely eliminated the need for any technical expertise for the organizers.
- bart3r 3y ago
  Using discord would save you a lot on hosting costs, especially when dealing with huge quantities of assets like images and videos.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
- renewiltord 3y ago
  It's like Reddit but with functionality. Same benefits: - single sign-on - abuse protection - has sign-on flow for later if you want to migrate - someone else hosts assets - existing account flow means low friction to join for existing account holders (common in the space) - allows users to see other users at same time as use product - bot easy to spin up and async functionality is inherent
- astrange 3y ago
  Image generation needs moderation and file storage, and Discord gives you that for free.
  - viggity 3y ago
    More importantly, it is a built in way to show lots of generated content to a large audience, which can then thumbs-up content they like, which gets fed back into the model that X result was better than Y result.
    - astrange 3y ago
      No, that's not it. Nobody's doing that on Luma and I think Midjourney put ratings on their website instead.
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  Much more direct connection with users and the community can be built in the same place the tool exists. It's annoying but I can see why its happening
thornewolf 3y ago
To be "that guy" I like this trend. It combines product usage w/ discussion. That said, I believe a web UI would be strictly better.
- echelon 3y ago
  Discord as an open protocol we could all build our service around would be sick. There would still have to be hosting, moderation controls, high availability, low latency, etc. etc. engineering that "someone" would have to handle and own (ideally decentralized / p2p), but I believe it could be solved if ever incentives could align and a will could arise.
echelon 3y ago
Here are links to samples: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169773350470561893/preview.gif?ex=65569f54&is=65442a54&hm=1f4344d57ef61dc2766d948f1e4e47a51381a574b32878f9e8caba0da7a76bd8& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169029442924986439/1... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169753420454952970/preview.gif?ex=65568cc4&is=654417c4&hm=02b3c062cb8372e6e32ef1414a54d2b9862d6efdd8a98112ab4a95d879a485d9&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169491574200209489/preview.gif?ex=655598e7&is=654323e7&hm=db8b20219fb048358fc2f4061e6bea3ffc9557f041c05e961370963c240d3242&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169753472472719491/preview.gif?ex=65568cd0&is=654417d0&hm=de3edcf53dcce2969d4ba49f757ba9e2cffacc8a004357d967387b0167b7bfe7&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439...
- rchaud 3y ago
  These are decidedly not like the one on the homepage.
  - iforgotpassword 3y ago
    There's nothing on the homepage for me except a big logo and a join discord button...
    - rchaud 3y ago
      The graphic on the homepage is animated, it changes shape as you drag on it with your mouse or finger. Worked fine on my phone.
winrid 3y ago
The main problem you're not mentioning is lack of ability to disable notifications. There's just no way to opt out of the @everyone notifications.
- __jonas 3y ago
  Unless I'm misunderstanding, you can do that, if you right click a server under Notification Settings there is an option "Suppress @everywhere and @here" you can toggle. It's annoying to have to do this for every server though, I agree.
  - winrid 3y ago
    you're the hero I needed. I hope this keeps the red "1+" numbers gone.
    - firejake308 3y ago
      I believe it does
Jemm 3y ago
Discord is aggressively horrible.

Oh no, not another "join our discord to use it".

andrewstuart 3y ago

Its a weird choice of UI. Why do companies do this? Is it a development shortcut or something?

owenpalmer 3y ago
> Its a weird choice of UI. Yeah for sure. I guess one advantage is that since it's already in a chat, people can react and talk about it as it's happening.
choppaface 3y ago
Both a dev shortcut as well as a stickiness play. Adding a Discord server is like installing a smartphone app.
alanbernstein 3y ago
Probably. If your small team is competent at ML model development, why spend time building a web app? One time I participated in a small local event that required submitting photos via tagged Instagram posts. I was annoyed at that, until I realized it completely eliminated the need for any technical expertise for the organizers.
bart3r 3y ago
Using discord would save you a lot on hosting costs, especially when dealing with huge quantities of assets like images and videos.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
renewiltord 3y ago
It's like Reddit but with functionality. Same benefits: - single sign-on - abuse protection - has sign-on flow for later if you want to migrate - someone else hosts assets - existing account flow means low friction to join for existing account holders (common in the space) - allows users to see other users at same time as use product - bot easy to spin up and async functionality is inherent
astrange 3y ago
Image generation needs moderation and file storage, and Discord gives you that for free.
- viggity 3y ago
  More importantly, it is a built in way to show lots of generated content to a large audience, which can then thumbs-up content they like, which gets fed back into the model that X result was better than Y result.
  - astrange 3y ago
    No, that's not it. Nobody's doing that on Luma and I think Midjourney put ratings on their website instead.
whywhywhywhy 3y ago
Much more direct connection with users and the community can be built in the same place the tool exists. It's annoying but I can see why its happening

thornewolf 3y ago

To be "that guy" I like this trend. It combines product usage w/ discussion. That said, I believe a web UI would be strictly better.

echelon 3y ago
Discord as an open protocol we could all build our service around would be sick. There would still have to be hosting, moderation controls, high availability, low latency, etc. etc. engineering that "someone" would have to handle and own (ideally decentralized / p2p), but I believe it could be solved if ever incentives could align and a will could arise.

echelon 3y ago

Here are links to samples: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169773350470561893/preview.gif?ex=65569f54&is=65442a54&hm=1f4344d57ef61dc2766d948f1e4e47a51381a574b32878f9e8caba0da7a76bd8& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169029442924986439/1... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169753420454952970/preview.gif?ex=65568cc4&is=654417c4&hm=02b3c062cb8372e6e32ef1414a54d2b9862d6efdd8a98112ab4a95d879a485d9&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169491574200209489/preview.gif?ex=655598e7&is=654323e7&hm=db8b20219fb048358fc2f4061e6bea3ffc9557f041c05e961370963c240d3242&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439/1169753472472719491/preview.gif?ex=65568cd0&is=654417d0&hm=de3edcf53dcce2969d4ba49f757ba9e2cffacc8a004357d967387b0167b7bfe7&=&width=1024&height=1024 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169029442924986439...

rchaud 3y ago
These are decidedly not like the one on the homepage.
- iforgotpassword 3y ago
  There's nothing on the homepage for me except a big logo and a join discord button...
  - rchaud 3y ago
    The graphic on the homepage is animated, it changes shape as you drag on it with your mouse or finger. Worked fine on my phone.

winrid 3y ago

The main problem you're not mentioning is lack of ability to disable notifications. There's just no way to opt out of the @everyone notifications.

__jonas 3y ago
Unless I'm misunderstanding, you can do that, if you right click a server under Notification Settings there is an option "Suppress @everywhere and @here" you can toggle. It's annoying to have to do this for every server though, I agree.
- winrid 3y ago
  you're the hero I needed. I hope this keeps the red "1+" numbers gone.
  - firejake308 3y ago
    I believe it does

Jemm 3y ago

Discord is aggressively horrible.