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> RAV4 small SUVs Only in the US would anyone refer to the 2013 RAV4 as "small" :)
by namdnay 3y ago
> RAV4 small SUVs
Only in the US would anyone refer to the 2013 RAV4 as "small" :)
- justrealist 3y agoIt's small for an SUV, let's not be pedantic.
- nicoburns 3y agoSUVs are also smaller in other countries.
- justrealist 3y agoThe RAV4 a 5 seat car, if you define 2 row cars as full SUVs the definition loses all meaning. Full SUVs carry 7+ people.
- nicoburns 3y agoHmm... ok. I always think of SUVs as cars that are bulkier and have higher road clearance than a "normal" car (and perhaps 4WD or similar), without necessarily carrying more people like a "minivan" or "people carrier" would. Wikipedia says "there is no commonly agreed-upon definition of an SUV and usage of the term varies between countries.", so that might explain the discrepancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUV
- hunter2_ 3y agoI rented a Toyota Raize in Japan, and the website (Budget) repeatedly described it as an SUV. It's 100mm narrower and 250mm shorter than my VW Golf.
- salamanderss 3y agoSUV OGs were body on frame. Enclosed trucks basically. Soccer moms and dads driving to the grocery and back with their three spawn though have more market share. So they sell you a unibody oversized car that would be absolutely destroyed if used as the OG truck frame vehicles, and the soccer dad can pretend his oversized car is some off-road hauling machine.
- bdcravens 3y agoToyota actually referred to my C-HR as an SUV, when to me, it was just a hatchback. I don't even think of my EV6 as an SUV, even though it's categorized as such.
- vel0city 3y agoIf they sold it as a hatch nobody would want it. Hatchbacks are old and unstylish and seem like station wagons. SUVs are modern and what people want. SUV is a marketing term not any kind of real size or capacity term.
- ecmascript 3y agoAs a person with multiple dogs living in Europe I consider it to be small.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoThe RAV4 been gaining bulk over the years. I remember in the late 90s it really was a small SUV. It went from 148-164″ L x 67″ W x 65″ H in 1998 to 180″ L x 73″ W x 65-67″ H in 2013. Today it is 181-182″ L x 73″ W x 67-69″ H.
- lispisok 3y agoAlmost every vehicle has, even sedans.
- delfinom 3y agoThank you EPA wheelbase loophole that reduces he MPG target by increasing the vehicle size.
- fwmcbumcrumble 3y agoIt's not just the EPA fuel economy requirements. Safety requirements mean cars need a lot bigger doors, more crumble zone etc.
- namdnay 3y agoI think it’s mainly because each new mode year has to be “better” than the last. It’s easier to be “better” (more head room, more boot space etc) when you’re bigger. So individual models grow and then new ones come in below. For example the rav4 used to be Toyotas smallest suv, now there’s the CHR, and even the Yaris Cross
- DigitalBison 3y agoI'm sure I'm slightly misremembering/exaggerating, but RAV4s of recent years seem like a similar size to how I recall the Highlander from that time period, and now Highlanders are more like how I recall those older 4Runners(?).
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
- rootusrootus 3y ago> Only in the US I bet there are some Canadians that would disagree. And some Mexicans. And there are undoubtedly many other places in the world that does not share Europe's population density which would consider it a small SUV. Edit: I feel bad for forgetting to mention Australia. They may well be bigger V8 enthusiasts than North America.
- noncoml 3y agoAnd Middle Easterns and Australians. Basically everywhere but us Europeans and our tiny cars in our tiny cute medieval city roads (:
- DoingIsLearning 3y agoNo, has nothing to do with population density but all to do with legislation, taxation, and advertisement. It started as a regulatory loophole and slowly became a viral advertisement meme. US, Canada, Australia are the only odd ones out. Even in Mexico most pickup are utilitarian low height flatbeds, same for most Central and South America. You guys have a large (length and height) vehicle arms race that is absolutely setting back decades of vehicle design, pedestrian safety, and fuel efficiency.
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- deeviant 3y ago'Small' is relative; a 2014 RAV4 tips the scales at 3,500 pounds, just 200 more than a Camry, and extends a mere 10 inches longer. Such margins barely nudge it past sedan territory by American standards, making the 'small SUV' label fairly apt, especially in a market where vehicle dimensions have steadily grown over the years.
- delfinom 3y agoThe older RAV4s were small though. Due to the EPA poorly thought out emissions rule, all automakers been increasing the size of their cars every generation because increasing the wheelbase reduces the MPG target they have to meet. The target is still increasing but this gives them a offset.
- riku_iki 3y agoS in SUV stands for small btw
- PlatinumHarp 3y agoSport?
- riku_iki 3y agoIndeed, sorry )
- dzhiurgis 3y agou stands for penis and v for syndrome