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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a niche for third party data analysis. A very common feature across verticals is that in house data analysis is siloed. Whil

by kromem 3y ago

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a niche for third party data analysis. A very common feature across verticals is that in house data analysis is siloed. While it's a difficult sell, getting multiple siloed data sources to agree to 3rd party analysis for shared gains can be extremely successful for everyone involved when pulled off. So looking specifically at pharma, while analysis of published papers is meh, an often discussed component of research is the bias against publishing negative results. So a hypothetical product like using ML across multiple firms' data of failed products and research in order to establish a model that could more quickly identify dud research avenues by leveraging industry data could only exist with the broadest dataset as a 3rd party product and would deliver gains that could be quite profitable for some of the largest companies out there. Also, I think anyone who has worked with larger corporations on in house tech knows that even if the individual efforts are quite large and sophisticated, the sheer amount of bureaucracy that goes into every single thing at a sizable firm can mean significant advantages for startups vs in-house efforts, particularly when related to fast moving fields. I'd agree that "moving into a niche without knowing it extremely well" can be fraught with issues and that attempting to get buy in from B2B firms for a startup is a nightmare, but I'd disagree with "large company does X in house so creating a startup to do X is a bad idea."

pfisherman 3y ago
I mean what you suggested already kind of exists in several forms.[0,1] Third party data analyses is a thing, but this is often bundled with conducting experiments by CROs. See my other comment about market size. The problem is that you can make A LOT more money selling drugs than you can selling software to pharma companies. So if your software is any good, then you should use it to make drugs and just be a pharma company. 0. https://www.opentargets.org/ https://www.opentargets.org/ 1. https://www.citeline.com/en/products-services/clinical/pharmaprojects https://www.citeline.com/en/products-services/clinical/pharm...
- kromem 3y ago
  What I suggested was simply an illustrative example off the top of my head. The fact there's multiple similar companies that already independently exist furthers my point. As for your other point, I'd imagine there's a pretty big difference between the capabilities and infrastructure between bringing a drug to market and analyzing the data of people who bring drugs to market.

by kromem 3y ago

pfisherman 3y ago

I mean what you suggested already kind of exists in several forms.[0,1] Third party data analyses is a thing, but this is often bundled with conducting experiments by CROs. See my other comment about market size. The problem is that you can make A LOT more money selling drugs than you can selling software to pharma companies. So if your software is any good, then you should use it to make drugs and just be a pharma company. 0. https://www.opentargets.org/ https://www.opentargets.org/ 1. https://www.citeline.com/en/products-services/clinical/pharmaprojects https://www.citeline.com/en/products-services/clinical/pharm...

kromem 3y ago
What I suggested was simply an illustrative example off the top of my head. The fact there's multiple similar companies that already independently exist furthers my point. As for your other point, I'd imagine there's a pretty big difference between the capabilities and infrastructure between bringing a drug to market and analyzing the data of people who bring drugs to market.