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You can. It's almost quite literally an effort of 30 - 60 min per day or week or month, depending on how skilled you are at keeping things convenient, meaning s

You can. It's almost quite literally an effort of 30 - 60 min per day or week or month, depending on how skilled you are at keeping things convenient, meaning self-hosting services and maintaining them.

theonlybutlet 3y ago
And say getting a job, when everything is through LinkedIn?
- dadadatamen 3y ago
  You can get the contact details of the hiring manager on the companies website or call their front desk or ask in an E-Mail to info@xyz or support@xyz or even by asking around. and there are various ways to prove your value that are not based on networks
  - theonlybutlet 3y ago
    You won't know unless you saw the listing, which these days is put on LinkedIn.
    - dadadatamen 3y ago
      well, change your way of picking an employer, I guess?! the thing is, almost everyone is or will be looking in the near future.
      - theonlybutlet 3y ago
        What I do is of no consequence if that's all hiring managers do. These apps can become systemic.
        dadadatamen 3y ago
        attentional bias. That's not all all hiring managers do.
tempaccount1234 3y ago
You can, but if you decide to stay away from messengers like WhatsApp, you miss out. Which is OK unless you have kids in school age. Once a service gets so big, that you are practically forced to join, regulation seems like a very good idea
- hackideiomat 3y ago
  teach your kids signal?
  - logifail 3y ago
    > teach your kids signal? Getting your own kids to switch messenging client is fairly trivial. Then they can talk to you (and to each other). The network effect means you then have to persuade other kids, and parents, and sports coaches, and music teachers and ... to switch. (Source: have three kids and we have exactly this issue)
    - dadadatamen 3y ago
      Did you organize meetings with parents? In coop with teachers? Signal is spy stuff. WhatsApp means obedience and submission.
      - logifail 3y ago
        > Did you organize meetings with parents? In coop with teachers? At least where we are, schools have been told not to touch WhatsApp at all, and use another (more GDPR-compliant) messaging product; despite this there is typically an unofficial WhatsApp group for each class, but no teachers are members. > WhatsApp means obedience and submission I don't disagree, but I don't think you'll convince many parents to stop using WhatsApp if you approach it like that. My impression is that most parents are very busy people and are just trying to keep up with the chaos caused by their kids; they will opt for the easiest solution that solves their problem.
- dadadatamen 3y ago

theonlybutlet 3y ago

And say getting a job, when everything is through LinkedIn?

dadadatamen 3y ago
You can get the contact details of the hiring manager on the companies website or call their front desk or ask in an E-Mail to info@xyz or support@xyz or even by asking around. and there are various ways to prove your value that are not based on networks
- theonlybutlet 3y ago
  You won't know unless you saw the listing, which these days is put on LinkedIn.
  - dadadatamen 3y ago
    well, change your way of picking an employer, I guess?! the thing is, almost everyone is or will be looking in the near future.
    - theonlybutlet 3y ago
      What I do is of no consequence if that's all hiring managers do. These apps can become systemic.
      - dadadatamen 3y ago
        attentional bias. That's not all all hiring managers do.

tempaccount1234 3y ago

You can, but if you decide to stay away from messengers like WhatsApp, you miss out. Which is OK unless you have kids in school age. Once a service gets so big, that you are practically forced to join, regulation seems like a very good idea

hackideiomat 3y ago
teach your kids signal?
- logifail 3y ago
  > teach your kids signal? Getting your own kids to switch messenging client is fairly trivial. Then they can talk to you (and to each other). The network effect means you then have to persuade other kids, and parents, and sports coaches, and music teachers and ... to switch. (Source: have three kids and we have exactly this issue)
  - dadadatamen 3y ago
    Did you organize meetings with parents? In coop with teachers? Signal is spy stuff. WhatsApp means obedience and submission.
    - logifail 3y ago
      > Did you organize meetings with parents? In coop with teachers? At least where we are, schools have been told not to touch WhatsApp at all, and use another (more GDPR-compliant) messaging product; despite this there is typically an unofficial WhatsApp group for each class, but no teachers are members. > WhatsApp means obedience and submission I don't disagree, but I don't think you'll convince many parents to stop using WhatsApp if you approach it like that. My impression is that most parents are very busy people and are just trying to keep up with the chaos caused by their kids; they will opt for the easiest solution that solves their problem.
dadadatamen 3y ago