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From the “uBO works best in Firefox” page, I found this gem: > Firefox will wait for uBO to be ready before sending network requests from already opened tab(s)
by codeflo 3y ago
From the “uBO works best in Firefox” page, I found this gem:
> Firefox will wait for uBO to be ready before sending network requests from already opened tab(s) at browser launch.
> In Chromium-based browsers, this is not the case. Tracker/advertisement payloads may find their way into already opened tabs before uBO is ready, while Firefox will properly filter these.
That’s a hell of a “bug” in Chromium, that blocker initialization has a race condition with restoring the last opened tabs. What a weird little “accident” that Chromium just moves forward and loads all the trackers, “oopsie”. I wonder which kind of promotion the engineer who made that “mistake” has been awarded.
- Already__Taken 3y ago[flagged]
- throwaway141455 3y ago"I want my browser to load ads as fast as possible" is an interesting take
- haunter 3y agoWhy did you make a new account just for this comment?
- skrebbel 3y agoSome people have a weird habit of creating a throwaway account for every comment they make, no matter how mundane. I’m not sure what the rationale is, something privacy-ish i guess?
- ploum 3y agocould it be automated?
- networkchad 3y ago[dead]
- Condition1952 3y agoI like destroying accounts from time to time. Prevents becoming attached, identifying you with your comments, flushes your permanent record, etc. Besides, it’s a pain in the ass and you might get banned so you end up working fewer hours for the website. People with careers are getting cancelled because of their opinions published online. Nudging people to identify themselves online is inviting them to dig a grave
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- andyjohnson0 3y agoIt's possible that they work for an ad company, or aspire to do so, or work in a business where saying anything even mildly disparaging about adtech could be problematic.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- chii 3y agowhich is why uBO has the option to delay, but also to disable this delay (which relies on firefox enabling the capability to make a choice). Why can't chrome also let the plugin (and by proxy, the end user) decide?
- cookiengineer 3y agoNot wait for third party calls, but wait for third party calls from _remote_ third party websites? Your logic is utterly flawed.
- formerly_proven 3y agoOn the cosmological scale, it's all nearby.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- arpanetus 3y agoIf you want your Chrome to be as fast as possible, you would get rid of all extensions you have. It doesn't matter even if it's an adblock atp. Hence calling it a feature, not a bug is rather misleading. Since you went and installed plugins understanding that it might and it will affect your workflow.
- hackideiomat 3y agoUsually, ad blockers will dramatically improve a websites performance
- tyingq 3y ago> It doesn't matter even if it's an adblock atp Pre-manifest V3, when OnBeforeRequest actually blocked requests before they were downloaded, browsing typical sites with it enabled was objectively faster than with it off. Any overhead was pretty quickly recovered in not downloading the ads. Many benchmarks proved that. Here's one: https://whatsoftware.com/10-ad-blocking-extensions-tested-for-best-performance/view-all/ https://whatsoftware.com/10-ad-blocking-extensions-tested-fo... So, unless you're browsing exclusively all ad-free sites, it very much DOES matter, or used to.
- LightHugger 3y agowaiting for ublock improves website performance. there is no design compromise.
- vietvu 3y agoAnti ad block feature, not a bug I guess.
- Qhai 3y agoK
- zx8080 3y agoI would expect nothing less than an immediate promotion to the next title. So cool.
- airtonix 3y ago[dead]
- leloctai 3y agoWhich is a horrible design on Android. Firefox on my (admittedly relatively old) phone take 20s to load the first page when browser start with uBlock enabled. On desktop this is fine as it only happen once a day. But on the phone it happen a lot since apps getting killed is a normal thing.
- Sander_Marechal 3y agoIIRC there's a setting for that in UBo (look for pre-fetching)
- leloctai 3y agoI'm already allowing prefetching
- ComputerGuru 3y agoI could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s a different thing altogether. Edit: Yeah, disabling prefetch: > This will ensure no TCP connection is opened at all for blocked requests: It's for your own protection privacy-wise. uBlock holds itself (ideally) to a higher standard than not executing js or hiding an element, it tries to prevent the network connections from even taking place. This is for browser prefetching that happens on many pages even after the environment and extensions are fully loaded, in many different contexts, to speed up requests by having the binary payload of the response already available in cache before it is needed.
- danielbln 3y agoMy 4 year old S10E does not exhibit this behavior at all (Firefox with uBlock).
- rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 3y ago> What a weird little “accident” that Chromium just moves forward and loads all the trackers, “oopsie”. I wonder which kind of promotion the engineer who made that “mistake” has been awarded. This "bug" is in Safari/Webkit too, stop it with the conspiracy theory.
- kibwen 3y agoYou realize that Apple is ad company too, right? Just like every other shitty tech company these days. Apple generated $5 billion in ad revenue in 2022.
- bluish29 3y agoFrom the app store ads mainly. Omitting this fact is dishonest at best.
- SmarsJerry 3y agoI think they are requiring apps on their store use ads provided by their store as well though.
- badwolf 3y agoThis is not true.
- tanjtanjtanj 3y agoThey are not, as far as I can tell (as someone who is breaking this rule were it to exist)
- TheCleric 3y agoThey are not. For example Unity has their own ad network for Unity made games to use (even on Apple devices).
- freedomben 3y agoHow much was from outside the app store?
- vasdae 3y ago[flagged]
- seethedeaduu 3y agoI have experienced this on firefox as well but it is rare and don't know of a way to reproduce it.
- Sander_Marechal 3y agoAre you sure you don't have the option to wait turned off in the UBo settings?
- joveian 3y agoIt looks like one of the changes improves this: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/4cac9d185b https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/4cac9d185b
- RileyJames 3y agoI thought chromium was open source?
- harry_ord 3y agoShooting from the hip, here but part of it is. Other parts are closed source from Google or some other group that doesn't share.
- neurostimulant 3y agoIf this "feature" is intentional, then even though it's open source, your patch to fix the behavior may not be accepted.
- Justsignedup 3y agoAd nauseum solves this. Sure you get tracked but you also send all the wrong signals.
- malka 3y agoAd nauseam is "weirdly" banned from the chrome store. Guess it hurts them :)
- Condition1952 3y agoCan’t you sideload applications like a hacker?
- throitallaway 3y agoOur computing landscape has deteriorated if installing an application/extension outside of a walled garden makes you a "hacker."
- illiac786 3y agodepends how high the walls are I guess. One other way to look at it is, if 99% of users cannot do it, then it's a hack =) aka users have becomed dumbed down by walled garden...
- Modified3019 3y agoI believe the comment was facetious.
- kitkat_new 3y agoEspecially, because it clicks ads without you seeing them
- accountinhn 3y agoThat is a neat idea, going to give it a try.
- qwertox 3y agoThanks. Good to know. Solidifies my belief that additionally using Pi-Hole can only improve things.
- freedomben 3y agoFor now, hopefully DoH/DoT isn't forced upon us
- ComputerGuru 3y agoIt already has been but the workarounds are known and, for now, I haven’t run into anything that doesn’t fall back to (usually system) udp dns.
- manonthewall 3y agoIt helps, but it also misses a lot, it's really better to use multiple layers