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I doubt it’s a language or cultural problem. The CCP just aren’t very nice people. US politicians are taking advantage of the situation to score populist poin

I doubt it’s a language or cultural problem. The CCP just aren’t very nice people. US politicians are taking advantage of the situation to score populist points at home - but their caution towards China isn’t totally unwarranted.

alephnerd 3y ago
Journalists aren't sent abroad as much anymore. After 2008, most news bureaus shut down their foreign offices [0], and whoever is left tends to stay within a bubble around the main bureau in that country, while sourcing news from freelancers. In addition, when you can't see or understand social media in another language and on an entirely different ecosystem of platforms, you end up getting a warped view of the world. [0] - https://theconversation.com/with-foreign-bureaus-slashed-freelancers-are-filling-the-void-at-their-own-risk-108664 https://theconversation.com/with-foreign-bureaus-slashed-fre...
- chii 3y ago
  > Journalists aren't sent abroad as much anymore. when the CCP arrests people for reporting things they dont like, it's no wonder foreign journalists don't want to go there.
chrischen 3y ago
You can’t just call the billions of people in China CCP. And they also aren’t just pro US shills either. Unwarranted or not Chinese in China overwhelmingly support their own government over others, and this is in fact attributable to culture because anyone who is not Chinese is referred to in the language as an “outside country person.” Your comment also exemplifies the sort of Berlin wall of cultural exchange between the two countries. You refer to the CCP as this sort of opaque not so nice organization but in fact the political system of the two nations are not so different if viewed as a whole system rather than the superficial parts. Sure China has one party with overreaching power over industry and corporations. But when you see the US system as a whole it’s not too different with corporations controlling both parties (you’ll see they often contribute to both Democrats and Republicans). One party, controlling corporations vs corporations controlling both parties. Not much difference in the end. A lot in the west sort of just have a vague understanding of the workings of Chinese politics, and even less about the day to day life and well being of an average Chinese person. This is mostly due to the fault of China though, limiting cultural exports and making it difficult to get tourism visas for westerners. I’m not sure what that’s about. Chinese have a better understanding of foreign life but probably still a bit lacking in terms of understanding foreign politics. And even though there are a lot of overseas Chinese there’s just way more Chinese people who don’t know about the west apart from pop culture just because there are billions of Chinese (raw numbers).

alephnerd 3y ago

Journalists aren't sent abroad as much anymore. After 2008, most news bureaus shut down their foreign offices [0], and whoever is left tends to stay within a bubble around the main bureau in that country, while sourcing news from freelancers. In addition, when you can't see or understand social media in another language and on an entirely different ecosystem of platforms, you end up getting a warped view of the world. [0] - https://theconversation.com/with-foreign-bureaus-slashed-freelancers-are-filling-the-void-at-their-own-risk-108664 https://theconversation.com/with-foreign-bureaus-slashed-fre...

chii 3y ago
> Journalists aren't sent abroad as much anymore. when the CCP arrests people for reporting things they dont like, it's no wonder foreign journalists don't want to go there.

chrischen 3y ago

You can’t just call the billions of people in China CCP. And they also aren’t just pro US shills either. Unwarranted or not Chinese in China overwhelmingly support their own government over others, and this is in fact attributable to culture because anyone who is not Chinese is referred to in the language as an “outside country person.” Your comment also exemplifies the sort of Berlin wall of cultural exchange between the two countries. You refer to the CCP as this sort of opaque not so nice organization but in fact the political system of the two nations are not so different if viewed as a whole system rather than the superficial parts. Sure China has one party with overreaching power over industry and corporations. But when you see the US system as a whole it’s not too different with corporations controlling both parties (you’ll see they often contribute to both Democrats and Republicans). One party, controlling corporations vs corporations controlling both parties. Not much difference in the end. A lot in the west sort of just have a vague understanding of the workings of Chinese politics, and even less about the day to day life and well being of an average Chinese person. This is mostly due to the fault of China though, limiting cultural exports and making it difficult to get tourism visas for westerners. I’m not sure what that’s about. Chinese have a better understanding of foreign life but probably still a bit lacking in terms of understanding foreign politics. And even though there are a lot of overseas Chinese there’s just way more Chinese people who don’t know about the west apart from pop culture just because there are billions of Chinese (raw numbers).