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I believe this is very common, with rats starving themselves to death next to food while able to get dopamine. Cats too. As I understand it, it's a reward sign
by VierScar 3y ago
I believe this is very common, with rats starving themselves to death next to food while able to get dopamine. Cats too.
As I understand it, it's a reward signal that becomes an "expected reward in future" signal with some learning.
Been reading an interesting book that touches on this, AI and evolution called A Brief History of Intelligence.
- amelius 3y agoHumans too: https://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/19/world/taiwan-gamer-death/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/19/world/taiwan-gamer-death/...
- hackerlight 3y agoA lot of the modern economy is optimizing for dopamine provision. Social media, fast food, tobacco. It brings into question the concept of free consumer choice. The reality is that we're more akin to moths flying into a flame whenever dopamine is involved.
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoMy personality makes me have to resist these things with asceticism. But I am also very aware of how things make me feel as a result. We are biological machines but I don't believe that is all we are, so we aren't resigned to addiction to whatever catches our eye first.
- fsckboy 3y ago>I believe this is very common, with rats starving themselves to death next to food yes but in a way that makes it more interesting rather than less. dopamine evolved way way back in the evolutionary tree, and that it has been maintained for essentially the same use over millions of years and countless clades is fascinating. don't give dopamine to ChatGPT, it's contraindicated with paperclips
- Jensson 3y ago> don't give dopamine to ChatGPT, it's contraindicated with paperclips Upvoting it is essentially dopamine long term. Would be nice if it had effects more immediately like in living beings, so you could punish it until it got things right and reward it when it does well.
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