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The article starts with "everything is FACT" then ends with: Every .io domain you buy funds a government committing crimes against humanity. Every .io domain

The article starts with "everything is FACT" then ends with: Every .io domain you buy funds a government committing crimes against humanity. Every .io domain you renew legitimises and reinforces the continued exile of the Chagossians. which is hyperbole at best, and bollocks at worst. .io isn't sold or owned by the british (or US) government Most people don't understand what .io is for, moreover the UK goverment has almost no idea what .io stands for. so to say that its supporting crimes against humanity is somewhat of a stretch. Thats like saying that watching pakistan play cricket is supporting the deportation of 1.4 million afghan refugees.

KronisLV 3y ago
> Every .io domain you renew legitimises and reinforces the continued exile of the Chagossians. The history there is unfortunate (although the history lesson itself is welcome), but at the same time this is akin to saying: you should boycott products and services from the UK/US. If you feel that way, you can try to do that, but I get the feeling that purely logistically that would get pretty difficult to do. Looking at every piece of food you buy at the store, to see where it's from, looking at every website of the companies that you want to do business with. You might lose access to a lot of hardware, appliances and even the majority of the websites out there to make a stand. I get why one might single out the .io domains for symbolic reasons, but at the same time most people probably think of something like I/O and haven't even heard of Chagos Archipelago, ergo there's not a lot of intentional legitimization/reinforcement of any kind going on.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  Well, the thought process is that cents from every .io registration go to a private equity firm. And none of that money goes to the people who historically lived there and were displaced. So... that's a pretty shitty thing to support (as someone registering a domain), when the alternative is simply "Pick a different TLD." Tbh, ICANN/IANA should either (a) dissolve the TLD as-is, as there is no independent country it covers (and the UK already has one and doesn't want it) or (b) switch it to Chagossian ownership, so they financially benefit. The current situation and ownership is indefensible.
  - wavemode 3y ago
    The part I fail to follow is that denouncing the occupation of Chagos necessarily means that the two letter abbreviation "IO" becomes off-limits for all use cases. If ICANN were to actually step in, all they would realistically do (which, logically, should address your concerns) is designate that .io now stands for Input/Output and should be used for tech-related websites (which would merely legitimize how the TLD is currently used anyway).
    - ethbr1 3y ago
      The original British sod who bought the lot has already made off with ill-gotten gains. But the private equity company that currently owns it bought it from him. So I fail to see how the current PE owner has any legitimate claim to own the TLD. They "own" stolen property. ICANN should rip it from their hands, then re-bid it as a gTLD. If the same PE company wants to rebuy it... that's their business, and fairly done.
      - KaiserPro 3y ago
        > They "own" stolen property. but its not stolen? > ICANN should rip it from their hands, then re-bid it as a gTLD. but if it is stolen, taking it away and re-selling it isnt the correct remedy. surely it should go to the descendants of the people who are displaced? or better yet, put in trust to provide for them in perpetuity.
    - duskwuff 3y ago
      > If ICANN were to actually step in, all they would realistically do (which, logically, should address your concerns) is designate that .io now stands for Input/Output Highly unlikely. Two-letter (non-IDN) TLDs are strictly reserved for country codes. This would be a strange time to break that rule, and it'd send a really terrible message, i.e. "if your country's ccTLD falls into the wrong hands, we'll take it away from you forever".
      - dataflow 3y ago
regnull 3y ago
Weird. Also: > And so, Britain traded the land illegally. Whoa, strong claim. Probably backed by facts below? Nope. At the same time, Wikipedia: > In November 1965, the UK purchased the entire Chagos Archipelago from the then self-governing colony of Mauritius for £3 million to create the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). So, they bought it for 3 million pounds. Doesn't seem illegal to me.
- beepbooptheory 3y ago
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- gowld 3y ago
  That's like the Cuba buying Florida from the USA. Floridians wouldn't consider that "legal" People can't be legally bought and sold.
  - rfw300 3y ago
    Ironic, considering the United States literally purchased Florida from Spain.
    - ethbr1 3y ago
      Yeah, but it wasn't like there were pre-existing inhabitants in the Americas at that time. /HEAVIEST-S-POSSIBLE
      - bluish29 3y ago
        Is that suppose to be some sort of sarcasm I'm missing, or you just ignore Indigenous people? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Amer...
        saghm 3y ago
        Not sure if the comment was edited or not, but "/s" is often used as a shorthand for indicating sarcasm due to it not being easy to infer tone in text, so "/HEAVIEST-S-POSSIBLE" is intended mean that you should read their comment in as sarcastic a tone as possible. So yes, they were being sarcastic.
thih9 3y ago
> The article starts with "everything is FACT" From what I’ve seen, “fact” (especially in all caps) is often used as a hyperbole, similar to “literally” or the skull emoji. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Generation_Z_slang https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Generation_Z_slang
- KomoD 3y ago
  What are you on about, the article itself does not say fact in all caps and clearly fact(s) is not used as a hyperbole or slang in this article
  - thih9 3y ago
    I assumed grandparent was quoting from the article, the quotation marks made me think that. Looks like the grandparent was the one adding hyperbole.
JohnFen 3y ago
> Most people don't understand what .io is for What is it for?
- ethbr1 3y ago
  $
- KaiserPro 3y ago
  most people think its for startups from about 2015. but its supposedly for British Indian Ocean Territory.
- hurrdurr56 3y ago
  According to the blog in the OP, it exists solely to give you the opportunity to advocate your support for mass genocide.
evantbyrne 3y ago
The invocation of "colonialism" in tech discussions tends to be a pretty reliable indication that what follows will be gibberish.
- angra_mainyu 3y ago
  I was hoping we could keep our zealousness to tabs vs spaces, 2 vs 3 vs 4 vs 8 indentation levels, etc.
  - xeckr 3y ago
    Do you end all your statements in JS with semicolons? What, are you some sort of semicolonialist?
    - brodouevencode 3y ago
      Semicolonizer
    - ASalazarMX 3y ago
      Does this make Erlang a colonialist?
      - xeckr 3y ago
        I'm afraid so. You Erlangers are all cancelled now, together with the Python people.
  - mmh0000 3y ago
    This is a good point you bring up. It is evident that everyone knows the correct level of indentation is a tab character that is four spaces wide; you never use spaces for indentation, only tab characters. Any suitable programming language will immediately recognize a space as a typo and fail compilation.
    - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
tempodox 3y ago
> The article starts with "everything is FACT" No, it doesn't. That phrase occurs nowhere in the article.
- tromp 3y ago
  The article states "Here's the history and the facts." Advice to GP: Don't put something in quotes unless quoting literally.
RockRobotRock 3y ago
wait until they find out my domain comes from Afghanistan (.af)
deanCommie 3y ago
Unless the headline was changed in the last 55 minutes, to me it says "Here's the history and the facts." which is a very different statement from "EVERYTHING is a fact" It says here are the facts. It lists a lot of facts. Then it ends with a conclusion: > And so, finally, I reach my point. > Every .io domain you buy funds a government committing crimes against humanity. Every .io domain you renew legitimises and reinforces the continued exile of the Chagossians. To me, this is clearly an opinion. An opinion you can choose to disagree with. But disagree with it on it's merits, not on the author's preface.
d0mine 3y ago
Try the same logic for e.g., .ru domain and see how it goes.
- pipeline_peak 3y ago
  I don't touch .ru domains with a stick lol

KronisLV 3y ago

> Every .io domain you renew legitimises and reinforces the continued exile of the Chagossians. The history there is unfortunate (although the history lesson itself is welcome), but at the same time this is akin to saying: you should boycott products and services from the UK/US. If you feel that way, you can try to do that, but I get the feeling that purely logistically that would get pretty difficult to do. Looking at every piece of food you buy at the store, to see where it's from, looking at every website of the companies that you want to do business with. You might lose access to a lot of hardware, appliances and even the majority of the websites out there to make a stand. I get why one might single out the .io domains for symbolic reasons, but at the same time most people probably think of something like I/O and haven't even heard of Chagos Archipelago, ergo there's not a lot of intentional legitimization/reinforcement of any kind going on.

ethbr1 3y ago
Well, the thought process is that cents from every .io registration go to a private equity firm. And none of that money goes to the people who historically lived there and were displaced. So... that's a pretty shitty thing to support (as someone registering a domain), when the alternative is simply "Pick a different TLD." Tbh, ICANN/IANA should either (a) dissolve the TLD as-is, as there is no independent country it covers (and the UK already has one and doesn't want it) or (b) switch it to Chagossian ownership, so they financially benefit. The current situation and ownership is indefensible.
- wavemode 3y ago
  The part I fail to follow is that denouncing the occupation of Chagos necessarily means that the two letter abbreviation "IO" becomes off-limits for all use cases. If ICANN were to actually step in, all they would realistically do (which, logically, should address your concerns) is designate that .io now stands for Input/Output and should be used for tech-related websites (which would merely legitimize how the TLD is currently used anyway).
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    The original British sod who bought the lot has already made off with ill-gotten gains. But the private equity company that currently owns it bought it from him. So I fail to see how the current PE owner has any legitimate claim to own the TLD. They "own" stolen property. ICANN should rip it from their hands, then re-bid it as a gTLD. If the same PE company wants to rebuy it... that's their business, and fairly done.
    - KaiserPro 3y ago
      > They "own" stolen property. but its not stolen? > ICANN should rip it from their hands, then re-bid it as a gTLD. but if it is stolen, taking it away and re-selling it isnt the correct remedy. surely it should go to the descendants of the people who are displaced? or better yet, put in trust to provide for them in perpetuity.
  - duskwuff 3y ago
    > If ICANN were to actually step in, all they would realistically do (which, logically, should address your concerns) is designate that .io now stands for Input/Output Highly unlikely. Two-letter (non-IDN) TLDs are strictly reserved for country codes. This would be a strange time to break that rule, and it'd send a really terrible message, i.e. "if your country's ccTLD falls into the wrong hands, we'll take it away from you forever".
    - dataflow 3y ago

regnull 3y ago

Weird. Also: > And so, Britain traded the land illegally. Whoa, strong claim. Probably backed by facts below? Nope. At the same time, Wikipedia: > In November 1965, the UK purchased the entire Chagos Archipelago from the then self-governing colony of Mauritius for £3 million to create the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). So, they bought it for 3 million pounds. Doesn't seem illegal to me.

beepbooptheory 3y ago
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gowld 3y ago
That's like the Cuba buying Florida from the USA. Floridians wouldn't consider that "legal" People can't be legally bought and sold.
- rfw300 3y ago
  Ironic, considering the United States literally purchased Florida from Spain.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    Yeah, but it wasn't like there were pre-existing inhabitants in the Americas at that time. /HEAVIEST-S-POSSIBLE
    - bluish29 3y ago
      Is that suppose to be some sort of sarcasm I'm missing, or you just ignore Indigenous people? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Amer...
      - saghm 3y ago
        Not sure if the comment was edited or not, but "/s" is often used as a shorthand for indicating sarcasm due to it not being easy to infer tone in text, so "/HEAVIEST-S-POSSIBLE" is intended mean that you should read their comment in as sarcastic a tone as possible. So yes, they were being sarcastic.

thih9 3y ago

> The article starts with "everything is FACT" From what I’ve seen, “fact” (especially in all caps) is often used as a hyperbole, similar to “literally” or the skull emoji. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Generation_Z_slang https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Generation_Z_slang

KomoD 3y ago
What are you on about, the article itself does not say fact in all caps and clearly fact(s) is not used as a hyperbole or slang in this article
- thih9 3y ago
  I assumed grandparent was quoting from the article, the quotation marks made me think that. Looks like the grandparent was the one adding hyperbole.

JohnFen 3y ago

> Most people don't understand what .io is for What is it for?

ethbr1 3y ago
$
KaiserPro 3y ago
most people think its for startups from about 2015. but its supposedly for British Indian Ocean Territory.
hurrdurr56 3y ago
According to the blog in the OP, it exists solely to give you the opportunity to advocate your support for mass genocide.

evantbyrne 3y ago

The invocation of "colonialism" in tech discussions tends to be a pretty reliable indication that what follows will be gibberish.

angra_mainyu 3y ago
I was hoping we could keep our zealousness to tabs vs spaces, 2 vs 3 vs 4 vs 8 indentation levels, etc.
- xeckr 3y ago
  Do you end all your statements in JS with semicolons? What, are you some sort of semicolonialist?
  - brodouevencode 3y ago
    Semicolonizer
  - ASalazarMX 3y ago
    Does this make Erlang a colonialist?
    - xeckr 3y ago
      I'm afraid so. You Erlangers are all cancelled now, together with the Python people.
- mmh0000 3y ago
  This is a good point you bring up. It is evident that everyone knows the correct level of indentation is a tab character that is four spaces wide; you never use spaces for indentation, only tab characters. Any suitable programming language will immediately recognize a space as a typo and fail compilation.
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

tempodox 3y ago

> The article starts with "everything is FACT" No, it doesn't. That phrase occurs nowhere in the article.

tromp 3y ago
The article states "Here's the history and the facts." Advice to GP: Don't put something in quotes unless quoting literally.

RockRobotRock 3y ago

wait until they find out my domain comes from Afghanistan (.af)

deanCommie 3y ago

Unless the headline was changed in the last 55 minutes, to me it says "Here's the history and the facts." which is a very different statement from "EVERYTHING is a fact" It says here are the facts. It lists a lot of facts. Then it ends with a conclusion: > And so, finally, I reach my point. > Every .io domain you buy funds a government committing crimes against humanity. Every .io domain you renew legitimises and reinforces the continued exile of the Chagossians. To me, this is clearly an opinion. An opinion you can choose to disagree with. But disagree with it on it's merits, not on the author's preface.

d0mine 3y ago

Try the same logic for e.g., .ru domain and see how it goes.

pipeline_peak 3y ago
I don't touch .ru domains with a stick lol