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I was much closer with coworkers at previous jobs where we saw each other in person on a regular basis in an office. I’m not saying that mandatory in office is

by tw04 3y ago

I was much closer with coworkers at previous jobs where we saw each other in person on a regular basis in an office. I’m not saying that mandatory in office is a good thing, but I am saying I think all of you insisting there’s 0 benefit to a regular in-person cadence are either antisocial or heavily biased. It isn’t always “the man” just trying to get his way. Even more so for new college grads who may have moved for a job and don’t have a strong local social circle. Source: I am not in a position to care if other people are in an office or not, I’ve just worked everything from sitting at a desk 9 hours a day to no local office at all.

thefz 3y ago
Counter point: in person I have met the worst co-workers, while remotely everyone is nicer.
test6554 3y ago
Is there any benefit in having some office space for employees when they need it? Sure. Is there any benefit in mandating that all employees must come into the office X days per week? No.
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  Of course there is. It may not outweigh the cons but there is absolutely a benefit to having an in person relationship with your coworkers.
silveraxe93 3y ago
Completely agree with you. I had amazing friends when I went to the office. I 100% prefer remote working and am not coming back, but I have to recognise that it's not better at absolutely everything. I'm seeing a absurd amount of Arguments as Soldiers[1] in this space. No one wants to have a conversation. It's always straight into conflict, underlying intentions, etc. No regards for truth seeking. [1] - https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/arguments-as-soldiers https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/arguments-as-soldiers
- spacemadness 3y ago
  I think this is a reaction to corporate leadership not wanting a discussion at all and using their friends in the media to spread propaganda that remote work is inherently bad. You wake up one day after a string of layoffs and read emails from corporate executives telling you you why remote work is bad and ineffective, and you’re not a team player if you are working remote. Meanwhile articles start popping up that only highlight the perceived negative outcomes of people not going to the office when there are many obvious positives that may not be mentioned or given equal weight.

by tw04 3y ago

thefz 3y ago

Counter point: in person I have met the worst co-workers, while remotely everyone is nicer.

test6554 3y ago

Is there any benefit in having some office space for employees when they need it? Sure. Is there any benefit in mandating that all employees must come into the office X days per week? No.

HDThoreaun 3y ago
Of course there is. It may not outweigh the cons but there is absolutely a benefit to having an in person relationship with your coworkers.

silveraxe93 3y ago

Completely agree with you. I had amazing friends when I went to the office. I 100% prefer remote working and am not coming back, but I have to recognise that it's not better at absolutely everything. I'm seeing a absurd amount of Arguments as Soldiers[1] in this space. No one wants to have a conversation. It's always straight into conflict, underlying intentions, etc. No regards for truth seeking. [1] - https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/arguments-as-soldiers https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/arguments-as-soldiers

spacemadness 3y ago
I think this is a reaction to corporate leadership not wanting a discussion at all and using their friends in the media to spread propaganda that remote work is inherently bad. You wake up one day after a string of layoffs and read emails from corporate executives telling you you why remote work is bad and ineffective, and you’re not a team player if you are working remote. Meanwhile articles start popping up that only highlight the perceived negative outcomes of people not going to the office when there are many obvious positives that may not be mentioned or given equal weight.