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Excellent decision. But with most things GDPR, enforcement is key. I doubt any other website will actually change their behavior because of this. There's a si

Excellent decision. But with most things GDPR, enforcement is key. I doubt any other website will actually change their behavior because of this. There's a single website that I have encountered that publicly respects Do Not Track: Geizhals.de No other website, that I know of at least, actually checks this.

isodev 3y ago
I hope tech companies see this as an incentive to get rid of the cookie prompts - a DNT clearly means "reject all tracking and non-essential cookies".
- mschild 3y ago
  I do too, but I doubt it. They have shown plenty of times theyll fight it as much as they can.
- romanovcode 3y ago
  It would be nice if DNT = deny all except mandatory. So browser would have one pop-up after installation and no more banners on websites. One could dream.
jacquesm 3y ago
This ruling opens up the door to enforcement, it is general enough that German companies and companies active in Germany will take notice and it might inspire other EU countries to follow suit.
dantyti 3y ago
The company I'm currently at has changed its behavior after court/regulatory decisions regarding google analytics. We are now using a cookieless solution that respects DNT. I have no doubt that this would not have happened otherwise. Still sad that our legal counsel didn't like the idea of self hosting web analytics (since then we'd become a data processor).
- arlcode 3y ago
  I hope in the midterm most companies, which do not make their money with advertising, will ask themselves "do we even need that data??" My local dentist has a cookie consent banner up and it's certainly not because they need that vital web tracking of the odd person who tries to find their opening hours but because it's the default setting of their hosting provider. If it becomes a hassle for companies to deal with this it'll lead to data minimization. Most companies do not need detailed analytics beyond counting inbound links.
pgeorgi 3y ago
https://devowl.io/wordpress-real-cookie-banner/ https://devowl.io/wordpress-real-cookie-banner/ has an option described as: "Users can set the "Do not track" HTTP header in their browser to indicate that they do not want to be tracked. If you enable this option, users will be able to access your website with this HTTP header without a cookie banner, if there are no non-essential services that are used based on legitimate interest. Only the non-rejectable services will be used in the case." geizhals.de shows a message that it honored DNT, but in the ideal case you don't even see it.
LelouBil 3y ago
Well, it sets a precedent for other EU countries, when associations like NOYB inevitably sue. However, it will take time...

isodev 3y ago

I hope tech companies see this as an incentive to get rid of the cookie prompts - a DNT clearly means "reject all tracking and non-essential cookies".

mschild 3y ago
I do too, but I doubt it. They have shown plenty of times theyll fight it as much as they can.
romanovcode 3y ago
It would be nice if DNT = deny all except mandatory. So browser would have one pop-up after installation and no more banners on websites. One could dream.

jacquesm 3y ago

This ruling opens up the door to enforcement, it is general enough that German companies and companies active in Germany will take notice and it might inspire other EU countries to follow suit.

dantyti 3y ago

The company I'm currently at has changed its behavior after court/regulatory decisions regarding google analytics. We are now using a cookieless solution that respects DNT. I have no doubt that this would not have happened otherwise. Still sad that our legal counsel didn't like the idea of self hosting web analytics (since then we'd become a data processor).

arlcode 3y ago
I hope in the midterm most companies, which do not make their money with advertising, will ask themselves "do we even need that data??" My local dentist has a cookie consent banner up and it's certainly not because they need that vital web tracking of the odd person who tries to find their opening hours but because it's the default setting of their hosting provider. If it becomes a hassle for companies to deal with this it'll lead to data minimization. Most companies do not need detailed analytics beyond counting inbound links.

pgeorgi 3y ago

https://devowl.io/wordpress-real-cookie-banner/ https://devowl.io/wordpress-real-cookie-banner/ has an option described as: "Users can set the "Do not track" HTTP header in their browser to indicate that they do not want to be tracked. If you enable this option, users will be able to access your website with this HTTP header without a cookie banner, if there are no non-essential services that are used based on legitimate interest. Only the non-rejectable services will be used in the case." geizhals.de shows a message that it honored DNT, but in the ideal case you don't even see it.

LelouBil 3y ago

Well, it sets a precedent for other EU countries, when associations like NOYB inevitably sue. However, it will take time...