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Orange Pi also has a bunch of extra features too including some standout ones like * don't need to spend extra $$ for M.1 SSD support * full-size HDMI so no n

by hajile 3y ago

Orange Pi also has a bunch of extra features too including some standout ones like * don't need to spend extra $$ for M.1 SSD support * full-size HDMI so no need for $10 dongle * 6 TOPS NPU * better Mali G610 MP4 GPU * 8k60 output * USB 3.1 port (10gb/s instead of just 5gb/s) * 4x A55 cores * Audio jack

imtringued 3y ago
Nobody needs that GPU. Alyssa Rosenzweig stopped working on the driver and got poached by Valve. Also, real time encoding with VP8 (yes, that is the standard for WebRTC) barely works. It has barely enough CPU power to produce a working demo, but too little to actually do anything with it.
- speed_spread 3y ago
  > Nobody needs that GPU [..] Can you expand on this? Is the hardware too slow, too power hungry, or just badly supported? At least coming from ARM there must be some hardware documentation on how they work. I mean, it can't be worse than Broadcom's all-proprietary GPUs.
  - nyanmisaka 3y ago
    In fact, she just no longer leads panfrost, but still reviews panfrost-related merge requests from time to time. Boris took over her place, and even panvk2 is on its way. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon Mali-G610MP4 is known to handle Genshin impact easily. (https://youtu.be/sA55S2Z7gLo?t=56 https://youtu.be/sA55S2Z7gLo?t=56) I doubt VideoCore VII can do that. As of today, there is still no detailed spec sheet for this GPU.
- francisduvivier 3y ago
  That GPU does pretty well for running an LLM though. Llama 7B at 2.8 tok/s via Mlc-chat. I'm setting up an LLM discord bot with it.
Bud 3y ago
Mini-HDMI doesn't require a dongle. Just get the right cable. They're just as cheap as a normal HDMI cable.
slaw 3y ago
Are any of Orange Pi boards mainlined?
- megous 3y ago
  Yes.
  - francisduvivier 3y ago
    Hi, happen to have some reference for this?
    - megous 3y ago
      I upstreamed some of them. Here's a complete list: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot... just search for orange. Most of Orange Pi boards have upstream support. Like one or two don't.

by hajile 3y ago

imtringued 3y ago

Nobody needs that GPU. Alyssa Rosenzweig stopped working on the driver and got poached by Valve. Also, real time encoding with VP8 (yes, that is the standard for WebRTC) barely works. It has barely enough CPU power to produce a working demo, but too little to actually do anything with it.

speed_spread 3y ago
> Nobody needs that GPU [..] Can you expand on this? Is the hardware too slow, too power hungry, or just badly supported? At least coming from ARM there must be some hardware documentation on how they work. I mean, it can't be worse than Broadcom's all-proprietary GPUs.
- nyanmisaka 3y ago
  In fact, she just no longer leads panfrost, but still reviews panfrost-related merge requests from time to time. Boris took over her place, and even panvk2 is on its way. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon Mali-G610MP4 is known to handle Genshin impact easily. (https://youtu.be/sA55S2Z7gLo?t=56 https://youtu.be/sA55S2Z7gLo?t=56) I doubt VideoCore VII can do that. As of today, there is still no detailed spec sheet for this GPU.
francisduvivier 3y ago
That GPU does pretty well for running an LLM though. Llama 7B at 2.8 tok/s via Mlc-chat. I'm setting up an LLM discord bot with it.

Bud 3y ago

Mini-HDMI doesn't require a dongle. Just get the right cable. They're just as cheap as a normal HDMI cable.

slaw 3y ago

Are any of Orange Pi boards mainlined?

megous 3y ago
Yes.
- francisduvivier 3y ago
  Hi, happen to have some reference for this?
  - megous 3y ago
    I upstreamed some of them. Here's a complete list: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot... just search for orange. Most of Orange Pi boards have upstream support. Like one or two don't.