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Not surprising at all to me. One of my issues with Google in the past couple years is their super aggressive push for me to be part of the system, I am usually

Not surprising at all to me. One of my issues with Google in the past couple years is their super aggressive push for me to be part of the system, I am usually unconcerned with sharing my data but their tactic has gone from gentle nudges to bothersome. 1) Using a non-chrome browser to access gmail? At least once a week get a popup telling me the experience is better in Chrome and I should switch. 2) Not logged into google in safari on my phone. During a routine google search, telling me with a modal to login to improve the search experience. Its exhausting and I started backing away from google because of it. Ok, tell me once or maybe tell me every few months thats fine...but every week the same darn message. Too much.

rubyfan 3y ago
The last straw for me was when Google Maps somehow logged me in on iOS. Maybe it was via gmail or some shared login like when I had to sign in to a google account to buy a Nest Protect, I don’t know. All I know is I have on purpose never signed into Google on Maps. I don’t use Google for anything I can avoid and I get nagged for it all the time. It’s exhausting and the amount of data that most websites seem to be freely sharing with Google just through analytics and those annoying sign on prompts is absurd. Why is no public interest lobbying to stop this intrusion of privacy?
- brookst 3y ago
  The privacy issue is a fair concern, but orthogonal to the login topic. Google has enough info to connect not-logged-in Maps usage to your user account.
- RileyJames 3y ago
  Yep their iOS cross app sharing is a privacy nightmare. Not to mention just plain annoying. The google meet app seems to include an entire gmail client for no reason and seems to show it rather than go back to your calendar / mail. Mail loads a web view, rather than the app (say slack) or even safari. Which means half in email links go nowhere, because I’m not logged in / able to access the destination via the web view. And they always want to continue linking my personal and business account within the same app, and then messing up which one should be trying to access. No matter how many times I remove my personal, it always reappears. Often via a “authorise access” pop up while logging in via a different device. Surely it’s a security issue to run 2FA via a device that has actively logged out and removed the account from it. I’m looking forward to them being broken up. It’s becomes too hostile.
- blibble 3y ago
  this infuriates me, I have: - uninstalled all google apps from my iphone - cleared icloud for google apps - reboot - install a google app I've never installed before (say one of the 70 different chat apps) - somehow I'm logged in apparently it keeps some state in the local keychain, which can't be deleted by the end user (other than by factory resetting the phone) this is a huge privacy loophole
- xethos 3y ago
  It is endlessly entertaining to me that we get such frequent "Help I'm locked out of my Google account" posts, while Google aggressively tries to sign in users. They've somehow got a problem on both ends of the spectrum.
pc86 3y ago
I might even be inclined to be part of a singular ecosystem like this if it actually was better. But telling me the experience is better on your browser when it is objectively identical just makes me think of you (the company, and the individual people working on Chrome) as a liar in the best case, and outright hostile/fraudulent in a slightly worse case.
- radlad 3y ago
  The experience is not identical because Google still restricts features and delivers a different experience to Firefox/Safari than Chrome. That's why this exists: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search-fixer/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search...
- chii 3y ago
  When they said better, they meant better for google! You just misinterpreted the text!
elzbardico 3y ago
I miss Janet Reno.

rubyfan 3y ago

The last straw for me was when Google Maps somehow logged me in on iOS. Maybe it was via gmail or some shared login like when I had to sign in to a google account to buy a Nest Protect, I don’t know. All I know is I have on purpose never signed into Google on Maps. I don’t use Google for anything I can avoid and I get nagged for it all the time. It’s exhausting and the amount of data that most websites seem to be freely sharing with Google just through analytics and those annoying sign on prompts is absurd. Why is no public interest lobbying to stop this intrusion of privacy?

brookst 3y ago
The privacy issue is a fair concern, but orthogonal to the login topic. Google has enough info to connect not-logged-in Maps usage to your user account.
RileyJames 3y ago
Yep their iOS cross app sharing is a privacy nightmare. Not to mention just plain annoying. The google meet app seems to include an entire gmail client for no reason and seems to show it rather than go back to your calendar / mail. Mail loads a web view, rather than the app (say slack) or even safari. Which means half in email links go nowhere, because I’m not logged in / able to access the destination via the web view. And they always want to continue linking my personal and business account within the same app, and then messing up which one should be trying to access. No matter how many times I remove my personal, it always reappears. Often via a “authorise access” pop up while logging in via a different device. Surely it’s a security issue to run 2FA via a device that has actively logged out and removed the account from it. I’m looking forward to them being broken up. It’s becomes too hostile.
blibble 3y ago
this infuriates me, I have: - uninstalled all google apps from my iphone - cleared icloud for google apps - reboot - install a google app I've never installed before (say one of the 70 different chat apps) - somehow I'm logged in apparently it keeps some state in the local keychain, which can't be deleted by the end user (other than by factory resetting the phone) this is a huge privacy loophole
xethos 3y ago
It is endlessly entertaining to me that we get such frequent "Help I'm locked out of my Google account" posts, while Google aggressively tries to sign in users. They've somehow got a problem on both ends of the spectrum.

pc86 3y ago

I might even be inclined to be part of a singular ecosystem like this if it actually was better. But telling me the experience is better on your browser when it is objectively identical just makes me think of you (the company, and the individual people working on Chrome) as a liar in the best case, and outright hostile/fraudulent in a slightly worse case.

radlad 3y ago
The experience is not identical because Google still restricts features and delivers a different experience to Firefox/Safari than Chrome. That's why this exists: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search-fixer/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search...
chii 3y ago
When they said better, they meant better for google! You just misinterpreted the text!

elzbardico 3y ago

I miss Janet Reno.