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> Trying to keep them alive even when they have terrible quality of life is not necessarily a humane option Maybe this is too off-topic, but I've always thoug
by uoaei 3y ago
> Trying to keep them alive even when they have terrible quality of life is not necessarily a humane option
Maybe this is too off-topic, but I've always thought that vegetarianism is not a very well thought through philosophy. Animals kept alive under uncomfortable, stressful, and undignified conditions are ok but putting them out of their misery is not? I know there's a wide fuzzy boundary between the two (some dairy cows are really happy; some slaughter cows die slow, painful deaths) but it doesn't seem like the quality of life of dairy cows, egg-laying hens, etc. is considered. Personally I'd much rather die than be forcibly impregnated, separated from my child, and milked, repeating this cycle for years.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 3y agoThe vegan argument I've heard is that buying animal products creates demand for more animals, which leads to more miserable animal lives. See e.g. https://reducing-suffering.org/how-much-direct-suffering-is-caused-by-various-animal-foods/ https://reducing-suffering.org/how-much-direct-suffering-is-...
- uoaei 3y agoYes, that's veganism. I understand divesting completely from animal-based food production. I'm speaking to vegetarianism.
- zargon 3y agoPeople choose vegetarianism for different reasons, not only compassion for animals. Those that do it for animals but still drink milk could be unaware of how dairy operates, or they could be making an effort to be more humane than average, while under constant counter messaging from the food environment around them. It's a wide spectrum, vegetarians aren't a homogeneous group.