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Oof since everyone is giving their Tesla experiences I'll share mine. I got my P3D in Oct 2018 and it got bumper damage a couple months later because of a dist

by lgkk 3y ago

Oof since everyone is giving their Tesla experiences I'll share mine. I got my P3D in Oct 2018 and it got bumper damage a couple months later because of a distracted driver. My car was in the shop for almost 1.5 months and the total cost was around 5.7k USD. Thankfully insurance covered all of it and I didn't pay anything out of pocket. However, it just shows these cars are very tech-heavy and the cost of sensors and supply chain issues add up. For me as a individual it wasn't a big deal that my car was in the shop waiting for parts shipments - I had a second car. For a business that invested in these cars having fixed assets collecting dust waiting for parts sounds like a nightmare scenario! Sure they have other cars too, but it is different scenario for them. I still think the Tesla was a fine car especially with all the tech. Maybe not the nicest car interior and issues wise (panel gaps galore), but fun to just kick the accelerator in and SCREAM! In 2018/2019 it felt really special. Now, I feel like every 3rd car is a Tesla (I live in California) so it isn't as special anymore but that's a good thing! I sold mine a couple years ago, and looking forward to what new innovation we get in the EV space next.

hef19898 3y ago
And now imagine the service of, say, VW would be at the same level...
nullc 3y ago
> Thankfully insurance covered all of it and I didn't pay anything out of pocket. Tesla's fragility and high repair costs are presumably increasing insurance prices for everyone.
- dehrmann 3y ago
  This brings up an interesting insurance debate. On one hand, you should have the right to drive around whatever expensive-to-fix car you want and be entitled to not getting hit, or at least reimbursed if you do. On the other, this doesn't set up good incentives. You have less skin in the game when it comes to repairs, so that's not a factor you look for when buying a car. The at-fault party's insurance should only be responsible for the repair cost of a median car with similar damage?
  - pests 3y ago
    That makes no sense to me either. Shitty cars could look for accidents to get above-average payouts and thrn, while this sucks, people tend to be more careful around more expensive things. Your way has everyone treating a $150,000 sports car like a 'median sedan' when it comes to caution.
    - fomine3 3y ago
      Not such case. It's expensive to repair, but it's paid by insurance. So people are okay to buy good but expensive to repair car. It's not great for society.
    - Spivak 3y ago
      That's funny, growing up in a family that drove beaters the expensive cars are the one you can bully a little because you have so much less to lose than they do. My insurance policy covers up to 500k so it's all the same to me, but that limited edition bmw hot pepper amg s-class is your baby and so what are you gonna do, hit me? It's the OG version of bully the self-driving car because they'll flinch long before you do.
      - pests 3y ago
        > are the one you can bully a little because you have so much less to lose than they do I too grew up in a family with beaters. But I have a more richer friend who has some road rage in his nicer car. I've heard him "wish they would hit me" when angry because they have full coverage and no worries of a replacement car - those with a beater and worse insurance have to be extra careful since they don't easily have a replacement.
    - nullc 3y ago
      I understood the comment to be suggesting a limit. If your damages are below the limit you'd still get actual damages. It means that you'd drive around a car which is more expensive than median at your own peril.
  - nullc 3y ago
solarkraft 3y ago
What's a P3D? Model 3 ... dual motor ... performance?
3c6bYDXLMj 3y ago
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m463 3y ago
All of this - all of this - is because Telsa has failed so far at service and repair. They have optimized their factories for assembly, but service, spare parts, and repair parts are overwhelmed. They have also been hesitant to develop 3rd party repair options, so the situation is similar to apple phone/computer 3rd party repair. Give it 10 years, and a little willpower.

by lgkk 3y ago

hef19898 3y ago

And now imagine the service of, say, VW would be at the same level...

nullc 3y ago

> Thankfully insurance covered all of it and I didn't pay anything out of pocket. Tesla's fragility and high repair costs are presumably increasing insurance prices for everyone.

dehrmann 3y ago
This brings up an interesting insurance debate. On one hand, you should have the right to drive around whatever expensive-to-fix car you want and be entitled to not getting hit, or at least reimbursed if you do. On the other, this doesn't set up good incentives. You have less skin in the game when it comes to repairs, so that's not a factor you look for when buying a car. The at-fault party's insurance should only be responsible for the repair cost of a median car with similar damage?
- pests 3y ago
  That makes no sense to me either. Shitty cars could look for accidents to get above-average payouts and thrn, while this sucks, people tend to be more careful around more expensive things. Your way has everyone treating a $150,000 sports car like a 'median sedan' when it comes to caution.
  - fomine3 3y ago
    Not such case. It's expensive to repair, but it's paid by insurance. So people are okay to buy good but expensive to repair car. It's not great for society.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    That's funny, growing up in a family that drove beaters the expensive cars are the one you can bully a little because you have so much less to lose than they do. My insurance policy covers up to 500k so it's all the same to me, but that limited edition bmw hot pepper amg s-class is your baby and so what are you gonna do, hit me? It's the OG version of bully the self-driving car because they'll flinch long before you do.
    - pests 3y ago
      > are the one you can bully a little because you have so much less to lose than they do I too grew up in a family with beaters. But I have a more richer friend who has some road rage in his nicer car. I've heard him "wish they would hit me" when angry because they have full coverage and no worries of a replacement car - those with a beater and worse insurance have to be extra careful since they don't easily have a replacement.
  - nullc 3y ago
    I understood the comment to be suggesting a limit. If your damages are below the limit you'd still get actual damages. It means that you'd drive around a car which is more expensive than median at your own peril.
- nullc 3y ago

solarkraft 3y ago

What's a P3D? Model 3 ... dual motor ... performance?

3c6bYDXLMj 3y ago

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m463 3y ago

All of this - all of this - is because Telsa has failed so far at service and repair. They have optimized their factories for assembly, but service, spare parts, and repair parts are overwhelmed. They have also been hesitant to develop 3rd party repair options, so the situation is similar to apple phone/computer 3rd party repair. Give it 10 years, and a little willpower.