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It’s terrible, but this technology is likely coming to a bar/pub/cafe/store/park/trail near you… diarization, voice recognition… I’m concerned that in the near

by hm-nah 3y ago

It’s terrible, but this technology is likely coming to a bar/pub/cafe/store/park/trail near you… diarization, voice recognition… I’m concerned that in the near future, humans can no longer assume that their words are not being captured and potentially used for who-knows-what purposes. The commons, Alexafied.

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erkt 3y ago
Time to normalize personal white noise generators.
- renjimen 3y ago
  I think that would just be an arms race that AI would undoubtably win at the expense of our sanity.
  - lovemenot 3y ago
    It's not humans vs AI. It's intrusive humans empowered by AI vs privacy-protecting humans empowered by AI.
YetAnotherNick 3y ago
It's not like recording technology is new. It's only because most countries have laws providing that tools like these are not widely used by government. And I don't believe AI is going to change the laws significantly. I don't believe most of the 1984 stuff will happen at least in near future.
renjimen 3y ago
Easily solved with more tech! Subaudible recording with mic on throat —> encrypted transmission to peers —> peers’ earbuds. Conversation 2.0, or something. Sarcasm, but wouldn’t be surprising if it happens eventually
- hm-nah 3y ago
  Basadd!!
ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
Freedom and privacy are rapidly going to become a thing of the past. You won't be able to escape even if you attempt to. The world is becoming a disgusting place and I want none of it anymore.
- belter 3y ago
  Statement detected on web platform 'HackerNews': Autocorrelation in progress... Identity found: Subject #ThrowAway1922A Warning: Potential dissident behavior. Monitoring level upgraded to TIER-3. Recommendation: Dispatch surveillance drones for real-time observation.
  - teitoklien 3y ago
    What’s more scary is you dont even need the tech of the future to do this. Just combine together the tech of now with some clever optimisations to keep resource usage low enough to do it at scale. When you think how they are slowly ripping apart schools systems, corrupting the integrity of our institutions both technical and philosophical. It really makes you think, if its all in the works
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    - mikrotikker 3y ago
      Time to make the peasants peasants again, they wanna go back to feudal societies.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  I think it more likely that it becomes something you pay for. Ads only pay so much, and richer people (upper-middle-class and above) can afford to pay more out of pocket than ads targeted to them are worth. Or, at the very least, it's worth enough for third-party non-ad companies such as LifeLock to run interference on other companies privacy invasion tools.
cyanydeez 3y ago
Fairly certain it's already happening in you cell phones.
- fsflover 3y ago
  My phone has a hardware kill switch for the mic/camera.
silenced_trope 3y ago
There is some future where AI, deepfakes, and what not become so indistinguishable from real people, that those industries (news media, social-media, etc) that make sport out of hearing "wrong speak" and performing shaming rituals will become obsolete. Same with the security state, if all the data is suspect, does it matter?

by hm-nah 3y ago

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erkt 3y ago

Time to normalize personal white noise generators.

renjimen 3y ago
I think that would just be an arms race that AI would undoubtably win at the expense of our sanity.
- lovemenot 3y ago
  It's not humans vs AI. It's intrusive humans empowered by AI vs privacy-protecting humans empowered by AI.

YetAnotherNick 3y ago

It's not like recording technology is new. It's only because most countries have laws providing that tools like these are not widely used by government. And I don't believe AI is going to change the laws significantly. I don't believe most of the 1984 stuff will happen at least in near future.

renjimen 3y ago

Easily solved with more tech! Subaudible recording with mic on throat —> encrypted transmission to peers —> peers’ earbuds. Conversation 2.0, or something. Sarcasm, but wouldn’t be surprising if it happens eventually

hm-nah 3y ago
Basadd!!

ThrowAway1922A 3y ago

Freedom and privacy are rapidly going to become a thing of the past. You won't be able to escape even if you attempt to. The world is becoming a disgusting place and I want none of it anymore.

belter 3y ago
Statement detected on web platform 'HackerNews': Autocorrelation in progress... Identity found: Subject #ThrowAway1922A Warning: Potential dissident behavior. Monitoring level upgraded to TIER-3. Recommendation: Dispatch surveillance drones for real-time observation.
- teitoklien 3y ago
  What’s more scary is you dont even need the tech of the future to do this. Just combine together the tech of now with some clever optimisations to keep resource usage low enough to do it at scale. When you think how they are slowly ripping apart schools systems, corrupting the integrity of our institutions both technical and philosophical. It really makes you think, if its all in the works
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  - mikrotikker 3y ago
    Time to make the peasants peasants again, they wanna go back to feudal societies.
anonymouskimmer 3y ago
I think it more likely that it becomes something you pay for. Ads only pay so much, and richer people (upper-middle-class and above) can afford to pay more out of pocket than ads targeted to them are worth. Or, at the very least, it's worth enough for third-party non-ad companies such as LifeLock to run interference on other companies privacy invasion tools.

cyanydeez 3y ago

Fairly certain it's already happening in you cell phones.

fsflover 3y ago
My phone has a hardware kill switch for the mic/camera.

silenced_trope 3y ago

There is some future where AI, deepfakes, and what not become so indistinguishable from real people, that those industries (news media, social-media, etc) that make sport out of hearing "wrong speak" and performing shaming rituals will become obsolete. Same with the security state, if all the data is suspect, does it matter?