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One company down...the entire rest of the tech industry to go. As an over 40 the job search is grim

by strangesmells02 3y ago

throwaway5959 3y ago
The job market in general blows right now. Keep at it and good luck!
- strangesmells02 3y ago
  Its out of this world bad. Like every job after a day has hundreds of applicants according to LinkedIn. Online applying seems to be shooting the rez into the void
pfannkuchen 3y ago
Curious what sort of level you are, if your company does that? I have wondered whether the ageism thing is partially related to younger people being a lottery ticket in terms of talent+commitment level. The company might get lucky and hire someone who is way overpowered but currently under leveled because they have not yet had time to reach their terminal seniority level. This ends up being a great bargain for the company. Whereas with established people it’s a bit more you get what you pay for.
- swatcoder 3y ago
  I think a bigger “legitimate” factor is craft culture. Because of the industry’s recent rapid growth wave, the approach experienced older developers take to the craft is often very different than what’s trendy among younger developers and teams where they dominate, and there’s easily a clash where both think the others’ approach is totally bonkers and a red flag. Somebody seeking a job may know or believe they can adapt, but the hiring team just sees an outsider and assumes the outsider doesn’t know how to do things “right”. This applies to skilled young developers trying to break into “old school” teams in defense/enterprise/industrial/etc as much as to older developers trying to keep up with youth-dominated FAANG and imitators, but it’s tolerated in the former but can get labelled as ageism in the latter.
- strangesmells02 3y ago
  Im seniorish. Got about a decade in the tech industry.
IshKebab 3y ago
Where are you based and what industry? I have a feeling that this "all of the tech industry is ageist" thing is highly dependent on location and industry. I work in the UK in the silicon industry and there are a ton of old people.

One company down...the entire rest of the tech industry to go. As an over 40 the job search is grim

throwaway5959 3y ago

The job market in general blows right now. Keep at it and good luck!

strangesmells02 3y ago
Its out of this world bad. Like every job after a day has hundreds of applicants according to LinkedIn. Online applying seems to be shooting the rez into the void

pfannkuchen 3y ago

Curious what sort of level you are, if your company does that? I have wondered whether the ageism thing is partially related to younger people being a lottery ticket in terms of talent+commitment level. The company might get lucky and hire someone who is way overpowered but currently under leveled because they have not yet had time to reach their terminal seniority level. This ends up being a great bargain for the company. Whereas with established people it’s a bit more you get what you pay for.

swatcoder 3y ago
I think a bigger “legitimate” factor is craft culture. Because of the industry’s recent rapid growth wave, the approach experienced older developers take to the craft is often very different than what’s trendy among younger developers and teams where they dominate, and there’s easily a clash where both think the others’ approach is totally bonkers and a red flag. Somebody seeking a job may know or believe they can adapt, but the hiring team just sees an outsider and assumes the outsider doesn’t know how to do things “right”. This applies to skilled young developers trying to break into “old school” teams in defense/enterprise/industrial/etc as much as to older developers trying to keep up with youth-dominated FAANG and imitators, but it’s tolerated in the former but can get labelled as ageism in the latter.
strangesmells02 3y ago
Im seniorish. Got about a decade in the tech industry.

IshKebab 3y ago

Where are you based and what industry? I have a feeling that this "all of the tech industry is ageist" thing is highly dependent on location and industry. I work in the UK in the silicon industry and there are a ton of old people.